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28. Your graph proves my point, thanks. There were excess deaths in January

Fri May 15, 2020, 04:15 PM

May 2020

and some of them could have been unreported covid.

It's not like they were testing everybody for covid. They were hardly testing anyone at all.

And that was a Federal chart, which could have obscured even higher amounts of excess deaths in specific locations such as Seattle.

ON UPDATE: What happened in mid-march was that exponential rate of increase was showing its effect.

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Definitely not "ironclad proof" FBaggins May 2020 #1

Just a note/mental exercise in my mind... SWBTATTReg May 2020 #2

No, not proof. However, there was also no "proof" of a January first case date. pnwmom May 2020 #19

well stated. and hits all the important points. stopdiggin May 2020 #25

Exactly. Probably MORE likely they had the flu in December Drahthaardogs May 2020 #31

It's unreal how persistent this belief is jberryhill May 2020 #33

I am a mathematical person. I think logically. Drahthaardogs May 2020 #34

So could the virus have been here for months and what's causing the deaths cstanleytech May 2020 #3

I was sick Thanksgiving last year. Tested neg. for the flu, but damn sure felt like it. Lochloosa May 2020 #4

See, this is exactly what I mean. Mike 03 May 2020 #6

There's always a variety of stuff circulating, though jberryhill May 2020 #7

Good point. Mike 03 May 2020 #8

"Could it have become deadly recently?" jberryhill May 2020 #13

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No. Igel May 2020 #14

Were those 6 hours at a Holiday Inn Express? If so you're good, obviously (nt) mr_lebowski May 2020 #15

How do we know the deaths weren't there? We don't generally do autopsies on pnwmom May 2020 #20

Excess mortality jberryhill May 2020 #21

Try this one jberryhill May 2020 #23

Why are you showing graphs of Europe instead of the United States? pnwmom May 2020 #24

Because they were handy jberryhill May 2020 #26

Here jberryhill May 2020 #27

Your graph proves my point, thanks. There were excess deaths in January pnwmom May 2020 #28

What on earth are you talking about? jberryhill May 2020 #32

With exponential growth the initial numbers are very small. And then suddenly they aren't. pnwmom May 2020 #35

Oh boy jberryhill May 2020 #36

The Northeastern U. modelers believe that by March 1 there were already 28,000 cases pnwmom May 2020 #38

You are right, and.... reACTIONary May 2020 #29

Me, my older brother and his wife all got sick early March but we think it was cstanleytech May 2020 #16

Not only that. We need to take a hard look at the 2019-20 flu season. Mike 03 May 2020 #5

I convinced a young relative to get the flu shot in late December, and a week later she got sick. pnwmom May 2020 #22

It's quite possible, since Cheeto knew in EARLY NOVEMBER this was coming sandensea May 2020 #10

The Quest antibody test can't distinguish Covid-19 from other coronavirus-based colds. moriah May 2020 #39

He should get the Abbott antibody test. It is apparently 99.9% accurate. SunSeeker May 2020 #41

I think the Dinosaurs had this bucolic_frolic May 2020 #9

the only question is by those who aren;t looking for the answers in the first place beachbumbob May 2020 #11

This is why testing is critical matt819 May 2020 #12

Yeah, the FL trip from the NE and back, that's me. Flew back Jan. 31, got sick 2 days Nay May 2020 #17

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I had some bug in early January. roamer65 May 2020 #30

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