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AtheistCrusader

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44. They were not allowed to. The Federal Government controls the Comfort and Mercy, and they were
Mon May 25, 2020, 07:35 AM
May 2020

in place only to accept normal trauma cases. Broken bones, gunshot wounds, things like that. (Things that military doctors are actually really good at handling.)

This policy barrier made the ships useless. Before entering the ship, you had to test negative for Covid-19. This isn't a super useful thing to require, when someone is bleeding out in front of you.

Trump wins multiple ways on this one. All kinds of manufactured fanfare about the ships being deployed. Never mind that they were under-staffed and under-equipped, being mid-refit when they got the orders to go. Because of the constraints on their use, they didn't actually have to help anyone, which is apparently Trump's prime directive. And when they left, under-utilized, Trump gets to blame the states that 'didn't use them' and or 'clearly didn't need them'.

Donald Trump's reality distortion field is, frankly, astounding. It's always JUST ENOUGH to please his base, even if it means thousands of dead. Think about how the headlines play; 'tens of thousands of new yorkers dead'. How does that play to a red-hat-wearing trump supporter? New York is a solidly blue state. Swap 'new yorkers' with 'liberals', and then you can probably sense the glee such a person would feel, reading that headline. They simply aren't playing the same game the rest of us are. Their motives are alien to ours.

Anyway, here's an article why the Comfort and Mercy were nothing more than Trump publicity stunts, that he totally got away with. Edit: The criteria I described above was the 'early' plan for using these ships, and the military field hospitals. That they would take the normal trauma stuff, and the hospitals could focus on Covid-19 victims. By the time this article below was written, the policy started to change to include Covid victims, but as you will see, they constrained the transfer of patients so much, it still didn't matter.
https://nypost.com/2020/04/09/usns-comfort-and-javits-center-mostly-empty-amid-coronavirus/

Sounds right. Trumps appointees have been running the show for 3 years and six months. pwb May 2020 #1
They were supposed to know about coronavirus in 2017? alp227 May 2020 #4
Most other states did not do the same thing. LisaL May 2020 #2
Other states didn't have the hospital capacity issue NY had Sanity Claws May 2020 #3
Get the timeline right. Igel May 2020 #5
They also had a big ship they could have taken the covid patients to. LisaL May 2020 #8
They were not allowed to. The Federal Government controls the Comfort and Mercy, and they were AtheistCrusader May 2020 #44
Assuming they were screening the people transferred by testing them to make sure cstanleytech May 2020 #6
Nope, they weren't screening. LisaL May 2020 #7
Very foolish then. cstanleytech May 2020 #12
Sure is. LisaL May 2020 #15
He said he was "trying to depoliticize the issue" Steelrolled May 2020 #9
New York was going to get hit hard, but sending covid positive patients into nursing homes LisaL May 2020 #10
That is true. Steelrolled May 2020 #11
Same policy in Michigan MichMan May 2020 #13
In what Universe does it even make sense? LisaL May 2020 #14
Nursing homes were told they were required to accept any positive cases that were sent to them MichMan May 2020 #17
Here is a link to Whitmer's order" Executive Order 2020-50 (COVID-19)" Kaleva May 2020 #19
Oh I know it was done. LisaL May 2020 #20
Whitmer ordered that nursing homes not equipped to handle COVID-19 cases to transfer the resident Kaleva May 2020 #23
Yep, Item # I-2 MichMan May 2020 #21
I guess they had good intentions-to make sue these people LisaL May 2020 #22
Only if the nursing home had a dedicated unit that could handle COVID-19 residents Kaleva May 2020 #24
What do you think a regional hub is? LisaL May 2020 #25
Again, the COVID-19 residents have to be housed in a seperate unit Kaleva May 2020 #26
All righty then. LisaL May 2020 #27
Family of victim want to know why he was taken from his apt and placed in a that home. Kaleva May 2020 #28
Recovery and rehab purposes doesn't exclude rehabbing for covid. LisaL May 2020 #30
The attacker was placed in home because of a 911 call Kaleva May 2020 #31
Son was in a group home. LisaL May 2020 #33
Perpetrator posted a video of the beating on his social media MichMan May 2020 #41
Actually it's pretty bizarre. LisaL May 2020 #29
Other articales say the son was placed in the home becasue of a 911 call. Kaleva May 2020 #32
That story is scrambled a bit. LisaL May 2020 #35
I think the nursing home screwed up palcing the young man in the same room as the elderly man Kaleva May 2020 #34
The best I can figure out, the nursing home is where 20 year old was placed after covid diagnosis. LisaL May 2020 #36
I'm confused about the timeline but it is late! Kaleva May 2020 #37
Well, father says son was living a in group home until quite recently. LisaL May 2020 #38
Here is an article that makes the timeline clear. LisaL May 2020 #46
Thanks! Kaleva May 2020 #47
And some are getting tiredtoo May 2020 #40
Same thing happened in Pennsylvania DeminPennswoods May 2020 #16
Again, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that sending LisaL May 2020 #18
I'm with you. There is no defending this bad choice. EllieBC May 2020 #39
One thing the LTC facilities could do DeminPennswoods May 2020 #45
Michigan can't even provide any data on how many deaths occurred in nursing homes MichMan May 2020 #42
Bullshit. They know. name not needed May 2020 #43
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