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In reply to the discussion: Clinton: Iran cannot be trusted with nuclear program [View all]Ash_F
(5,861 posts)60. No argument here
"He is a fucking homophobic bigoted antisemitic holocaust denying asshole !" <- This is true
I never disputed that, in any post. His own words prove that.
BUT he has never threatened to strike Israel. Ever. That is a flat out lie. A dangerous one because it can be a pre-text for instigating war. A lie that has been debunked by reputable press, but not before the right-wing noise machine passes it around. Just the other day, Reuters tried it again with some editorial shenanigans before CBS stepped in and put the kabosh on it.
"But while Reuters quoted Ahmadinejad as calling for Israel to be eliminated, the official translation of his remarks indicated that he steered clear of the fiery rhetoric he is best known for."
Even Obama carefully avoided claiming that in his UN speech. He chose his words wisely for a reason. It wasn't just semantics. Our president is not a propagandist nor a liar. It's not unlike the "you didn't build that" meme he had to deal with a while ago. Except this is more dangerous because we are talking about war.
I never disputed that, in any post. His own words prove that.
BUT he has never threatened to strike Israel. Ever. That is a flat out lie. A dangerous one because it can be a pre-text for instigating war. A lie that has been debunked by reputable press, but not before the right-wing noise machine passes it around. Just the other day, Reuters tried it again with some editorial shenanigans before CBS stepped in and put the kabosh on it.
"But while Reuters quoted Ahmadinejad as calling for Israel to be eliminated, the official translation of his remarks indicated that he steered clear of the fiery rhetoric he is best known for."
Even Obama carefully avoided claiming that in his UN speech. He chose his words wisely for a reason. It wasn't just semantics. Our president is not a propagandist nor a liar. It's not unlike the "you didn't build that" meme he had to deal with a while ago. Except this is more dangerous because we are talking about war.
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Who are the "people as a whole" if you're leaving out large numbers of people?
harmonicon
Sep 2012
#21
The question wasn't whether the US had executed someone, but whether the offense was being
24601
Sep 2012
#42
Bill, why not "help to get everybody get rid of their nuclear weapons." Start with those who have
leveymg
Sep 2012
#3
Not right-wing talking points cribbed straight from Fox and Limbaugh, that's for sure. /nt
Ash_F
Sep 2012
#41
Good question, the US needs to lead the way in getting rid of Nukes. But instead
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#44
Clinton was right on that question, but will he endorse such an initiative himself?
Ash_F
Sep 2012
#5
No serious person believes the US and Israel are interested in nonproliferation
TomClash
Sep 2012
#8
Israel is in violation of UN Resolutions. How come nothing has been done about that?
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#45