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msanthrope

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32. Well, I think Manning left a trail of Assange requests for information. And he can testify to the
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 07:40 PM
Jan 2012

requests from Assange, which go far past the 'accepting information' defense that Julian might offer....

I wondered why Assange's lawyers wanted 'full access' to the closed-door sessions of the court-martial. After all, it wasn't because of 'classified documents' that Wikileaks had already published....no, the prosecution was using the 'classified' documents in open court...

"The prosecution flashed three chat logs onscreen that purportedly show correspondence between Manning and Assange discussing uploading so-called JTF-GITMO documents — classified assessment reports about Guantanamo Bay detainees. The chats also refer to two U.S. State Department cables about Reykjavik, Iceland, as well as a request from Manning to help him crack a password so that he could log onto his work SIPRnet computer anonymously."

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/category/bradley-manning/

The closed door sessions were about testimony and evidence received from the Grand Jury in Arlington. Which the military authorities can consider. And Assange has no legal access to that testimony.

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I found something very interesting---before release of the 'Collateral Murder' video, Manning ran a search for the term 'Birgitta Jonsdottir' in the SIPRnet database. See the reference to the 2 cables from Iceland above.

Did he pull this term out of the air? No..he was told to search for it. And see this curious testimonial exchange--

"The government asked if Madaras had ever used their computers to search for some of the same terms, as well as the term “JTF GITMO” or the name “Birgitta Jonsdottir,” or if he had ever used the Net Centric Diplomacy Database. Madaras replied “no” in each case.

The implication of the questioning seemed to be that the government had found forensic evidence that Manning’s workstation computers had been used to search these terms, though there was no testimony that stated this directly."

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/12/manning-apache-video/

So, someone chatted with Assange, (BM) and then, after chatting with Assange, ran specific queries into the SPIRnet system and forwarded relevant cables.

And then someone tweeted about it. (remember the twitter data case?)

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2011/12/06/wikileaks-associates-seek-injunction-on-twitter-data/

Looks like twitter is handing over the data....

http://www.aclu.org/free-speech/twitter-wikileaks-court-order

Lots of onion layers.

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So, the government sustained all 22 charges. msanthrope Jan 2012 #1
I guess they couldn't get him to lie about Assange. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #2
what she said.... mike_c Jan 2012 #3
Why are you assuming he would lie? msanthrope Jan 2012 #5
Actually I said the exact opposite of what you wrongfully read into my comment. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #6
You are suggesting that a plea agreement in which Manning testifies against Assnage would be falsely msanthrope Jan 2012 #11
No, I'm not suggesting any such thing, I'm suggesting the opposite. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #14
No, you aren't being clear. msanthrope Jan 2012 #17
Why do you think he would even be asked to do that? HE is on trial, not Assange, although sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #19
You didn't answer my question. Nor do I think you will. nt msanthrope Jan 2012 #20
You didn't answer my question, although in a way you did. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #21
"news publishers" aren't immune from "collusion"? joshcryer Jan 2012 #22
Well, I think Manning left a trail of Assange requests for information. And he can testify to the msanthrope Jan 2012 #32
Thanks for providing those hard hitting facts. joshcryer Jan 2012 #33
I think you fundamentally misapprehend a few things. msanthrope Jan 2012 #29
I don't assume anything. I know the facts so far. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #30
Did he even testify at this preliminary hearing? I don't recal any news reports that he said 24601 Jan 2012 #7
His lawyer declined to put him on. Smart move. msanthrope Jan 2012 #18
After Eric Holder publicly said that he would look for a crime to charge Assange with, EFerrari Jan 2012 #26
About time they sent him to trial Mudoria Jan 2012 #4
Why are the names of Coombs' witnesses he wants redacted on his own website? (nt) Robb Jan 2012 #8
Why was witness 48 completely redacted??? Was it related to this story--- msanthrope Jan 2012 #12
That is crazy, I smell a mole. joshcryer Jan 2012 #23
It's possible the defense attorney redacted the information. msanthrope Jan 2012 #25
I'm intimately familiar with the Green Scare cases, and we know that basically... joshcryer Jan 2012 #34
did he order the murder of civilians using drones or something similar? nt msongs Jan 2012 #9
No, he committed a worse crime, he exposed the murder of civilians. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #10
Yep, he pulled back the curtain. nt gateley Jan 2012 #15
They should schedule the trial after.... JJW Jan 2012 #13
Oh, God, that would be so JUST. Sigh. nt gateley Jan 2012 #16
A court martial The Wizard Jan 2012 #24
Couldn't agree more! n/t sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #27
False about the C's-M, of course. PavePusher Jan 2012 #28
Good. nt hack89 Jan 2012 #31
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