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In reply to the discussion: California becomes First State in Nation to Ban 'Gay Cure' Therapy for Children [View all]Heywood J
(2,515 posts)89. Right. I can tell you exactly where that "respect religious beliefs on child treatment" goes.
London Walter Zepeda was possessed by the devil.
His parents, devoutly religious members of a Pentecostal church that believes in such manifestations, knew that much to be true...
So Diego Zepeda-Cordera called his friend Alex Osegueda, a fellow member of the Missionary Church of Christ and a man of equal devotion, to help him rid his son of the evil. They had no idea the seven days of forced confinement it took to drive away the devil would also, literally, drain the life out of Walter.
He lost nine litres of fluid as he lay strapped with men's ties to metal chairs in the basement apartment he shared with his family in this western Ontario city. Ultimately he died of dehydration.
His parents, devoutly religious members of a Pentecostal church that believes in such manifestations, knew that much to be true...
So Diego Zepeda-Cordera called his friend Alex Osegueda, a fellow member of the Missionary Church of Christ and a man of equal devotion, to help him rid his son of the evil. They had no idea the seven days of forced confinement it took to drive away the devil would also, literally, drain the life out of Walter.
He lost nine litres of fluid as he lay strapped with men's ties to metal chairs in the basement apartment he shared with his family in this western Ontario city. Ultimately he died of dehydration.
Where's your respect for not "legislatively depriving them of that right" and "express[ing] our personal and religious views without government intervention"?
http://pbdba.lfpress.com/cgi-bin/publish.cgi?p=228720&s=societe
That appeared to be the case in Aylmer in 2001, when the Children's Aid Society seized seven children from an Aylmer family.
The parents -- who had been investigated a year earlier for failing to get medical help for a child scalded by boiling water -- had this time hit their children with belts, electrical cords and the wire handle of a fly swatter, according to the children.
During the investigation, child welfare workers seized a Church of God parenting guide in the home that told parents children as young as six months should be beaten with a rod.
The parents -- who had been investigated a year earlier for failing to get medical help for a child scalded by boiling water -- had this time hit their children with belts, electrical cords and the wire handle of a fly swatter, according to the children.
During the investigation, child welfare workers seized a Church of God parenting guide in the home that told parents children as young as six months should be beaten with a rod.
Does the "rubber meet the road" there for you? Or do you "empathize" with the dead and beaten?
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California becomes First State in Nation to Ban 'Gay Cure' Therapy for Children [View all]
trailmonkee
Sep 2012
OP
My state's government passes a lot of stupid, pointless laws. This is not one of them.
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#4
I liken it to killing the spirit... sounds kind of heavy, but how else can you describe it?
trailmonkee
Sep 2012
#14
Especially when it is something that they have no choice about and cannot change, nt
tblue37
Sep 2012
#49
when it is not a medically proven treatment and there is a consensus that it is abusive.
trailmonkee
Sep 2012
#29
Nice try at misrepresenting the source of opposition to this "treatment" -not just personal opinion
CreekDog
Oct 2012
#64
I'm simply stating that one person's authority is not necessarily another's.
MercutioATC
Oct 2012
#66
So Christian Scientists should be allowed to deny their cancer stricken children medical treatment?
CreekDog
Oct 2012
#68
You are ageeing that children should be forced to have harmful untheical treatment
obamanut2012
Oct 2012
#87
Equating a juvenile KILLING someone to a minor being forced into "gay therapy"?!
obamanut2012
Oct 2012
#86
religion aside, it is quakery because they are basing it on the idea that you learn to be Gay...
trailmonkee
Sep 2012
#27
It's interesting that you can't distinguish between the words "they" and "I".
MercutioATC
Oct 2012
#69
Who's "they?" The parents who get the visit from CPS and have their parental rights abrogated?
MADem
Sep 2012
#46
Why not let parents submit kids to trepanning or unmodified electroconvulsive therapy?
ck4829
Sep 2012
#42
ALL Christians tell children they are going to hell, because they are
Manifestor_of_Light
Oct 2012
#126
"we all want to be able to express our personal and religious views without government intervention"
Hassin Bin Sober
Sep 2012
#41
Advocating that this "therapy" is acceptable for any reason, in any context, is DEEPLY homophobic
Occulus
Sep 2012
#53
it's twisted logic, saying that this abuse of a child must be allowed to protect parental rights
CreekDog
Oct 2012
#107
Well, in other states, the licensing issues sure are putting a halt to abortion clinics
valerief
Oct 2012
#100
Right. I can tell you exactly where that "respect religious beliefs on child treatment" goes.
Heywood J
Oct 2012
#89
children cannot consent to this therapy, and the state has a right to protect children
La Lioness Priyanka
Oct 2012
#101
I wonder how soon North Carolina puts another amendment to our state's constitution
Jamastiene
Oct 2012
#77
Excellent point, which highlights the abusive nature of the so-called "therapy"
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2012
#117