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Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
14. Ignoring PDBs is a republican presidential tradition
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 03:08 AM
Jun 2020

Don't forget Bush

Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US

[link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bin_Ladin_Determined_To_Strike_in_US|]

Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US was the title of the President's Daily Brief prepared by the Central Intelligence Agency and given to U.S. President George W. Bush on Monday, August 6, 2001. The brief warned, 36 days before the September 11 attacks, of terrorism threats from Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda, including "patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for a hijacking" of U.S. aircraft.[1]

The President's Daily Brief (PDB) is a brief of important classified information on national security collected by various U.S. intelligence agencies given to the president and a select group of senior officials. On August 6, 2001, the Central Intelligence Agency delivered a President's Daily Brief to President Bush, who was vacationing at his ranch in Crawford, Texas.[2][3]

President Bush's response of "All right. You've covered your ass." has been erroneously linked to this PDB. This response, however, came from a separate PDB linked to Bin Laden from several months earlier. During 2001, CIA analysts produced several reports warning of imminent attacks by Bin Laden and al Qa'ida. Senior officials, including Vice President Dick Cheney and staff from Donald Rumsfeld's office at the Department of Defense, questioned whether these reports might not be deception on the part of Al-Qaeda, purposely designed to needlessly expend resources in response. After reevaluating the legitimate risks of these recent reports, CIA analysts produced a report titled "UBL [Usama Bin Laden] Threats Are Real". It was after this report that the president gave that now-infamous response.[4]


[link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bin_Ladin_Determined_To_Strike_in_US|]

Same excuse only the particulars are different.

But I don't believe the excuse. There were ulterior motives.

For Bush there were members of his cabinet who were aching for war with Iraq. PNAC (btw does anyone remember Bill Kriston before he was rehabilitated) advocated for regime change starting in 1998.

In 1998, Kristol and Kagan advocated regime change in Iraq throughout the Iraq disarmament process through articles that were published in the New York Times.[25][26] Following perceived Iraqi unwillingness to co-operate with UN weapons inspections, core members of the PNAC including Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, R. James Woolsey, Elliot Abrams, Donald Rumsfeld, Robert Zoellick, and John Bolton were among the signatories of an open letter initiated by the PNAC to President Bill Clinton calling for the removal of Saddam Hussein.[19][27] Portraying Saddam Hussein as a threat to the United States, its Middle East allies, and oil resources in the region, and emphasizing the potential danger of any weapons of mass destruction under Iraq's control, the letter asserted that the United States could "no longer depend on our partners in the Gulf War to continue to uphold the sanctions or to punish Saddam when he blocks or evades UN inspections." Stating that American policy "cannot continue to be crippled by a misguided insistence on unanimity in the UN Security Council," the letter's signatories asserted that "the U.S. has the authority under existing UN resolutions to take the necessary steps, including military steps, to protect our vital interests in the Gulf."[28] Believing that UN sanctions against Iraq would be an ineffective means of disarming Iraq, PNAC members also wrote a letter to Republican members of the U.S. Congress Newt Gingrich and Trent Lott,[29] urging Congress to act, and supported the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (H.R.4655)[30][31] which President Clinton signed into law in October 1998.


[link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century|]

Yeah remember back when Bill Kristol wasn't "rehabilitated"? I do. I just don't remember him being rehabilitated.

In Trump's case he has been allied with Russia for years. From memory:

The debt. The stolen election. The private Oval Office interview with only Russian press. Lifting sanctions. Interfering in Ukraine. Withdrawing troops from Syria. Many private meeting with Putin. Refusing to impose new sanctions. Inviting them to G7. Telling the pentagon to withdraw 9500 troops from Germany.

I'll add in the July 4th meeting of republican senators in Moscow.

I can go back further in time as well.

There is a long republican tradition of supporting causes against America's interest.

Maybe 2020 is the year we begin smashing bad traditions.
"I believe it may have been" in the written President's Daily Brief ... it wasn't yet "actionable," Botany Jun 2020 #1
"...it wasn't yet "actionable." WTF? That's word-salad-o-speak... brush Jun 2020 #16
He should be gone by noon today Botany Jun 2020 #24
There should be no way he can stay in office, but then there are... brush Jun 2020 #32
Oh Yes.. Nortbnd101 Jul 2020 #47
So Fat Donnie gets the "President's DAILY Brief" three times a week? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2020 #28
It comes out six days a week, and he might meet about it, but has only increased those meetings ancianita Jun 2020 #37
Here they go sliding down the slope to..."Sure he ignored it - it was the right thing to do!" lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #35
Whether to read or meet over the PDB is not a matter of group consensus. It's the president's #1 ancianita Jun 2020 #39
Rep. Sean Maloney: Every document the president has seen is stamped and dated - a record is kept. Botany Jun 2020 #41
Exactly. Now, let's see if any of those PDB's have been tampered with. ancianita Jun 2020 #43
If it's in the PDB... SergeStorms Jun 2020 #38
Exactly. ancianita Jun 2020 #40
Yes, and they think everyone will just buy their lies. brush Jul 2020 #48
Trump thought it was in reference to paper towels. C Moon Jun 2020 #2
Good thing Paul Revere wasn't named Donald Trump ArizonaLib Jun 2020 #3
Oooooookay...... SO. WHY. DID. HE. LIE. THEN? RockRaven Jun 2020 #4
Its simple..... louzke9 Jun 2020 #30
"I believe", "I think". Still looking for the spin to let Tru3off the hook. Arkansas Granny Jun 2020 #5
Oh yah, wait. Wait. It may have been... sprinkleeninow Jun 2020 #6
It was VP Bush I... agingdem Jun 2020 #19
And no one thought to get right on this - since 2019??!! Rhiannon12866 Jun 2020 #7
This kind of thing is no one's lookout. It's solely in the president's lap, no one else's. ancianita Jun 2020 #42
Doesn't make any sense to me. RDANGELO Jun 2020 #8
Well that's the whole scandal! That they decided not to act on it! unblock Jun 2020 #9
I guess because my brothers and sisters in arms didn't die of bones spurs. denbot Jun 2020 #10
Sounds familiar Nasruddin Jun 2020 #11
Either he knew or he didn't know. no_hypocrisy Jun 2020 #12
COVID is another 40 9-11s. Trump is like a 9-11 on every street corner. lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #36
Ya nice try to save their ass for deciding to do nothing but try that excuse to the service members cstanleytech Jun 2020 #13
Ignoring PDBs is a republican presidential tradition Midnightwalk Jun 2020 #14
I don't think Bill Kristol has been rehabilitated. SergeStorms Jun 2020 #44
I'm sure you noticed the other names as well Midnightwalk Jun 2020 #46
It was actionable enough that the Pentagon acted on it. keithbvadu2 Jun 2020 #15
"He gets briefed about three times a week..." regnaD kciN Jun 2020 #17
Glad to see I wasn't the only one questioning that! Maeve Jun 2020 #23
He doesn't read them anyway. SergeStorms Jun 2020 #45
Can't wait to see Tuesday's version of events. Grokenstein Jun 2020 #18
Bullshit Solly Mack Jun 2020 #20
But Pres. shouldn't have rewarded Putin offering G7 status and visit to DC wishstar Jun 2020 #21
Second Phase of Denial Lithos Jun 2020 #22
Raw Story is reporting gab13by13 Jun 2020 #25
Plus they had meetings on this and came up with a menu of options soothsayer Jun 2020 #26
all about damage control and the lying GOP will say anything, now. Next excuse beachbumbob Jun 2020 #27
Raw Story is reporting gab13by13 Jun 2020 #31
bolton needs to appear before a committee, so when do democrats form one? beachbumbob Jun 2020 #34
Sitting on his thumbs and making personal deals is what the president is best at. truthisfreedom Jun 2020 #29
The president's daily briefing should be read every day in its entirety by the president, period. chriscan64 Jun 2020 #33
Kick ck4829 Jul 2020 #49
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