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happyslug

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5. How will both candidates spin this?
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 08:49 PM
Oct 2012

Chevaz wanted to unionize the immigrant farm workers, but also OPPOSED immigration on the simple grounds as long as you permitted Immigrates in, they will take jobs a lower pay and thus undo all he was achieving in organizing the Immigrant farm Workers. The interesting part was his concern was the use of immigrants to undercut wages NOT immigration per se.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesar_Chavez

You have to understand's Chavez's position, he wanted to stop immigration for it undermined his efforts to organize, at the same time he wanted to make anyone already in the US a Legal US Resident so he could organize them. Thus he had EVERYONE against him, people who hate illegal immigration for he wanted to make those already in the US legal, and people who support immigration for he opposes immigration for it undermined his efforts to better the farmer workers.

Thus he would have opposed BOTH the positions of the Democrats AND the Republicans. The Democrats for NOT doing enough to stop immigration, the GOP for being against immigrants already in the US. In some ways his position is just undoable, i.e. how do you discourage immigration AND not punish illegal immigrates? Thus how will both parities handle Chevez's attitude to immigration will be interesting.

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Cue the nuts on the right claiming it's the Hugo Chavez memorial!! nt MADem Oct 2012 #1
LOL I was just going to post the same thing then I saw your post. nt cstanleytech Oct 2012 #2
Lol I can hear them now skeewee08 Oct 2012 #3
Fox will have it like that for sure. L0oniX Oct 2012 #4
This would make even less sense than usual, since Chavez doesn't like Obama. Arkana Oct 2012 #12
Those rightwingnuts aren't known for their logic, of course! nt MADem Oct 2012 #22
How will both candidates spin this? happyslug Oct 2012 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #10
Actually, his was (and is) a very solid Democratic position Duke Newcombe Oct 2012 #13
Yes, but he had his "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" in 1986 happyslug Oct 2012 #15
Good economic analysis.... Xolodno Oct 2012 #21
OOPS Omaha Steve Oct 2012 #6
It looks like a beautiful site from the photo. femmocrat Oct 2012 #7
It is beautiful XemaSab Oct 2012 #9
SI SE PUEDE! Cha Oct 2012 #8
I remember not eating grapes. aquart Oct 2012 #11
His fight with Meldrick Taylor was amazing AngryAmish Oct 2012 #14
I have a problem going off topic, but to bring in someone who just have the same last name.... happyslug Oct 2012 #16
What percentage of Americans under 50 know who he is? oberliner Oct 2012 #17
In California, probably fairly high KamaAina Oct 2012 #18
Good point oberliner Oct 2012 #19
Nice move, Obama! truthisfreedom Oct 2012 #20
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