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18. The survey periods
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 09:41 AM
Jul 2020

This from the Covid-19 section of the OP

In the establishment survey (which produces the nonfarm payroll jobs numbers -Progree), workers who are paid by their employer for all or any part of the pay period including the 12th of the month are counted as employed, even if they were not actually at their jobs. Workers who are temporarily or permanently absent from their jobs and are not being paid are not counted as employed, even if they are continuing to receive benefits.

(Most are paid either twice a month or every 2 weeks, some are paid weekly, a few are paid monthly, so the establishment survey numbers pretty much reflect conditions in the first half of June. I saw the percentages somewhere on how many people are paid each way, probably could find it if I looked hard, but don't have it handy -Progree)

In the household survey (which produces the unemployment rate -Progree), individuals are classified as employed, unemployed, or not in the labor force based on their answers to a series of questions about their activities during the survey reference week (June 7th through June 13th). Workers who indicate they were not working during the entire survey reference week and expect to be recalled to their jobs should be classified as unemployed on temporary layoff. In June, a large number of persons were classified as unemployed on temporary layoff.

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Next month that will be back down. But the stock market Squinch Jul 2020 #1
Probably not FBaggins Jul 2020 #8
We'll see whether it is or not. My opinion is that it will drop. Squinch Jul 2020 #14
trump is a traitor rockfordfile Jul 2020 #24
The survey periods progree Jul 2020 #18
Thank you! Squinch Jul 2020 #19
in a pig's eye bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #2
WaPo just breaking now BumRushDaShow Jul 2020 #3
Good morning. I didn't know if you would be around for a Thursday release. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2020 #4
I'm around BumRushDaShow Jul 2020 #5
"Last month, it said the unemployment rate was 13.3 percent, but a major misclassification" ... progree Jul 2020 #20
Black and Latino rates are around 15%. mpcamb Jul 2020 #37
Yup, I include black and white in my BLS Data Links (#7 below) progree Jul 2020 #38
Links to earlier reports: mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2020 #6
SOME BLS DATA SERIES NUMBERS LINKS progree Jul 2020 #7
Good morning. Thanks for being up for this. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2020 #9
Seasonally adjusted initial claims were 1,427,000, a decrease of 55,000 from the previous week mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2020 #10
PERSONS CLAIMING UI BENEFITS IN ALL PROGRAMS, W.E. June 13 (UNADJUSTED): 31,491,627 progree Jul 2020 #16
"I don't know why they don't have a Week Ending June 20 for this." mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2020 #17
Additional links: mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2020 #11
Links to charts and graphs from the BLS Twitter account. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2020 #12
This will give Yertle all he needs to justify not extending the Fed unemployment stopbush Jul 2020 #13
the real unemployment rate is closer to 20%, but the new math used these days leaves out a lot yaesu Jul 2020 #15
Agree! Wuddles440 Jul 2020 #22
The unemployment numbers will shockingly start hitting 15%-18% a month after Biden is in office Bengus81 Jul 2020 #23
Trump is winning so bigly IronLionZion Jul 2020 #21
All in all... Newest Reality Jul 2020 #25
U-6 Unemployment lonely bird Jul 2020 #26
Interesting analysis over at 538! maddogesq Jul 2020 #27
I get it. lonely bird Jul 2020 #28
That's 3.15x Of What It Was When BHO Left ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #29
I get 2.36x. But point well-taken progree Jul 2020 #30
I Think You're Doing UE6 ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #31
The official unemployment rate is U-3. I've never seen anything else given in the media progree Jul 2020 #32
From White House Dot Gov ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #33
That wasn't from any time in 2016 or 2017. I can believe that was September progree Jul 2020 #34
Per progree, "that was September 2019 released in early October 2019." mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2020 #35
Ahh, the flashback to better days - we'd still be there if we had not done all this testing progree Jul 2020 #36
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