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12. That Judge needs to understand what the 2nd is about and why it's there
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 04:51 PM
Jul 2020

The 2nd Amendment was included to get southern colonies to sign on to the Constitution. You see, southerners needed roving bands of armed white men to prevent slave rebellions. And they wanted these "militias" to be beyond the jurisdiction of a federal (a/k/a northern dominated) government. They wouldn't become a state without state militias.

Two other points: the Amendment is premised on "well-regulated militias", not "manhood challenged" white men. Without state authorization and regulation...you ain't militia. Second, the Amendment refers to groups (iow, organized and regulated militias) by saying "the people", that is plural or group; it does not say "persons". Reference to persons makes an amendment an individual right. "People" meant groups.

The SCOTUS effectively rewrote the Amendment in 2008 by declaring, incorrectly, "the people" actually meant individuals (oh, those silly founding fathers. Didn't know what "the people" really meant)....Majority: Scalia, Roberts, Kennedy, Thomas, Alito....all rightwing nuts.

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Damn elleng Jul 2020 #1
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, JT45242 Jul 2020 #2
I'm constantly stunned by what is either the total lack of reading comprehension, or the incredible rwsanders Jul 2020 #4
It would have been clearer if the 2nd said OneCrazyDiamond Jul 2020 #7
What about states like Illinois former9thward Jul 2020 #19
Would that include the infirm and mentally ill? OneCrazyDiamond Jul 2020 #23
The language says "abled bodied" former9thward Jul 2020 #28
I wasn't going to comment but then had a thought nykym Jul 2020 #39
It's the last part that makes it confusing Polybius Jul 2020 #35
Do you know what the word "regulated" mean in 1789? former9thward Jul 2020 #18
I doubt it. OneCrazyDiamond Jul 2020 #30
You forgot the last part Polybius Jul 2020 #34
This is why we must win the Senate AND beat Trump! OrlandoDem2 Jul 2020 #3
Exactly. OneCrazyDiamond Jul 2020 #5
Ughh. From the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals (used to be considered a "liberal" court) but that was progree Jul 2020 #6
Unbelievable bullshit. It was never about self defense. Auggie Jul 2020 #8
No, it's actually the Constitution. cstanleytech Jul 2020 #10
This is why a number of gun laws will keep failing. cstanleytech Jul 2020 #9
+1 OneCrazyDiamond Jul 2020 #11
Yes that would be a good start 47of74 Jul 2020 #13
I agree in theory Sgent Jul 2020 #32
Probably none currently but its honestly the only route otherwise the Courts will likely cstanleytech Jul 2020 #36
That Judge needs to understand what the 2nd is about and why it's there Liberal-Of course Jul 2020 #12
thanks for the smile... stillcool Jul 2020 #14
No. It comes from the British bill of rights of 1689 hack89 Jul 2020 #21
So I do not have individual rights under the 1st and 4th amendments? hack89 Jul 2020 #22
I and many others contend... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2020 #24
That is why if people truly want change regarding gun ownership they need to cstanleytech Jul 2020 #31
YES! The Mouth Jul 2020 #15
You don't the right to murder people. If you carry a gun out in public, then you're s loser. rockfordfile Jul 2020 #26
Post removed Post removed Jul 2020 #38
Does this just apply to Hawaii? ripcord Jul 2020 #16
The case was brought against a law in Hawaii. former9thward Jul 2020 #20
I was thinking of California ripcord Jul 2020 #27
CA used to have open carry. former9thward Jul 2020 #29
Post removed Post removed Jul 2020 #17
And those Judges helps gun mass murders to continue. rockfordfile Jul 2020 #25
What will this mean for NYC? Polybius Jul 2020 #33
This article is from 2018 hardluck Jul 2020 #37
Good catch. n/t sl8 Jul 2020 #40
Article misses being LBN by a couple of years. n/t sl8 Jul 2020 #41
After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING Omaha Steve Jul 2020 #42
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