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In reply to the discussion: Romney’s deduction cap would touch sensitive tax breaks [View all]Lasher
(29,673 posts)36. OK let's take a closer look.
Your monthly mortgage payment -- including principal, interest, real estate taxes and homeowners insurance -- should not be more than 28 percent of your gross monthly income (before taxes).
Your total monthly debt obligation should not be more than 36 percent of your gross income. Total debt includes the mortgage payment plus other obligations such as car loans, child support and alimony, credit card bills, student loans, condominium association fees. (Note: Government and certain other lenders may be more lenient.) This is your debt-to-income ratio.
http://loan.yahoo.com/m/basics6.html
Your total monthly debt obligation should not be more than 36 percent of your gross income. Total debt includes the mortgage payment plus other obligations such as car loans, child support and alimony, credit card bills, student loans, condominium association fees. (Note: Government and certain other lenders may be more lenient.) This is your debt-to-income ratio.
http://loan.yahoo.com/m/basics6.html
You cited a 36% maximum of monthly gross. That is improper unless you take into account the additional liabilities mentioned in the second paragraph above. You didn't mention this. For the sake of simplicity, and especially since you seem to cherish honesty, let's use the 28% maximum.
I said you would need a gross income of roughly $150K in order to afford a $500K mortgage (28% of $150,000 = $42,000 ÷ 12 = $3,500 maximum monthly payment).
Now let's have a look at that $500,000 mortgage mentioned in the OP. I used the calculator to be found here. Home value and loan amount = 500,000, loan purchase = new purchase, interest rate = 4%, loan term = 30 years, property tax = 1.25%, PMI = 0.5%. That leaves us with a monthly payment of $2,907.91
Therefore, upon closer examination, it appears you would only need an annual income of about $125K to afford a $500K mortgage (28% of $125,000 = $35,000 ÷ 12 = $2,917). That would put your income in the top 10%, not the top 5% as I first projected. I hope to be forgiven for this exaggeration, particularly since I did say, roughly $150,000.
If you have a $500K mortgage, and if your household income is not in the top 10%, you are engaging in risky behavior that should not be encouraged with tax incentives. And if you are in the top 10%, congratulations. But you don't need a tax break in that case either.
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I hope Jim Lehrer holds Mitt's feet to the fire tonight and makes him explain himself
renate
Oct 2012
#2
The deduction cap may also negatively impact donations to the arts and charities
no_hypocrisy
Oct 2012
#3
but, but, but these agencies are supposed to do the work of helping the poor
central scrutinizer
Oct 2012
#7
Yup. For me the "etc." includes a couple of big deductible items: state income tax & property tax
progree
Oct 2012
#19
I also find it laughable that you think someone can't get a mortgage more than 19% of gross income
CreekDog
Oct 2012
#11
I didn't have a liar's loan, my income ratios were fine, my credit ratings well over 800...
CreekDog
Oct 2012
#35
you're saying my taxes should go up by 4000 so that the wealthy can have that money?
CreekDog
Oct 2012
#37
It is all WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION. Why should America be talking about this now?
BlueStreak
Oct 2012
#17
Isn't it crazy that Romney can beat up the President for "wealth redistribution" one day and then
Texas Lawyer
Oct 2012
#28
The laws regarding capital gains taxes on the sale of a house already harm people in the
JDPriestly
Oct 2012
#23
We need to broaden the base to lighten the load on the overburdened millionaires and billionaires
Texas Lawyer
Oct 2012
#30