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Calista241

(5,586 posts)
26. It's actually pretty easy
Fri Aug 14, 2020, 05:19 PM
Aug 2020

SAMs and Anti-tank weaponry are rocket propelled and continue to provide thrust as they travel to the target / run out of fuel. If you bring artillery into the discussion, like a howitzer or canon, those are area of effect weapons that provide indirect fire and are appropriately classified as 'artillery' and not 'arms.'

All of these weapons are crew served, and requires a tremendous amount of skill to load, store, and fire accurately / safely. One of the smaller field artillery pieces used by the Army, the M102 105mm howitzer, requires a crew of 8 to operate.

The ATF classifies many of these items as 'destructive devices' and they do give out licenses to private individuals to own and operate them. They are, however, prohibitively expensive with a 105mm round costing over $400. A single hellfire anti-tank missile, which is unavailable to the public, costs the government over $100k. A Javelin anti-tank missile, which would be more useful to a single dude wanting to fuck some shit up (though also unavailable to the public), costs $200k for 1 missile and the launcher.

Yeah, because 'self-defense' is impossible without high-capacity magazines... Aristus Aug 2020 #1
A comparison is if they banned basketballs that were inflated to over 7.5 psi. Calista241 Aug 2020 #21
Specious connection between 2A and quantity bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #2
A 500 round magazine would weigh over 40 lbs when loaded, and doesn't include the Calista241 Aug 2020 #24
Fucking humpers - what a plague they are. Blues Heron Aug 2020 #3
Heller zipplewrath Aug 2020 #4
Such bullshit. The 2nd has been perverted. It was about muskets and a "well regulated" militia. Evolve Dammit Aug 2020 #5
If the full court hears this Mr.Bill Aug 2020 #6
The US Supreme Court? Polybius Aug 2020 #32
No, the full 9th Circuit Court. Mr.Bill Aug 2020 #40
Is there a time limit on when the AG can appeal? Polybius Aug 2020 #42
I'm talking about the California AG, not federal. Mr.Bill Aug 2020 #43
Ahh gotcha Polybius Aug 2020 #44
this is nuts, same ban held country wide for 10 years before it expired. Wonder how many are tRump yaesu Aug 2020 #7
Not quite the same law. The Assault Weapon Ban of 1994-2004 banned the manufacture of high capacity Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #8
Thanks for clearing that up, Dial H. Didn't know that. C Moon Aug 2020 #10
yep, you're right, I remember that individuals could still buy and sell but was an importer, yaesu Aug 2020 #11
Durintg the ban, I remember seeing 17 round Glock magazines that used to sell for $15 go for $150(!) Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #14
oh man, the market gets crazy when supply doesn't keep up with demand. nt yaesu Aug 2020 #15
No, it's simply the Constitution. cstanleytech Aug 2020 #12
I have said it before and I will say it again the only way cstanleytech Aug 2020 #9
A Constitutional Amendment is a very heavy lift. Thunderbeast Aug 2020 #17
I know but otherwise any law that is passed will be at the mercy of a future court challenge. cstanleytech Aug 2020 #18
That's a good way to start a civil war ansible Aug 2020 #30
I do not believe so because to pass an amendment to the Constitution really need to get a cstanleytech Aug 2020 #31
Chicago and DC outright banned them for 30 years Polybius Aug 2020 #33
Because the makeup of the courts is fluid and the 2nd amendment as it's written is flawwed. cstanleytech Aug 2020 #35
Not entirely true Polybius Aug 2020 #41
With that logic I guess it's only a matter of time before home owners can acquire their own SAM's Tom Yossarian Joad Aug 2020 #13
"I felt threatened by that airliner". Thunderbeast Aug 2020 #19
It's actually pretty easy Calista241 Aug 2020 #26
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2020 #37
Fuck! What happened to the 9th Circuit??? ananda Aug 2020 #16
McConnell? JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2020 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2020 #39
The ammosexuals are surely all fellating each other in celebration. nt Progressive Jones Aug 2020 #20
if I want a nuclear device will judge lee let me have my 2A rights to use one? nt msongs Aug 2020 #23
WTF does "well regulated" mean anyway? rickyhall Aug 2020 #25
At the time it was written, well equipped and proficient. Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #27
It means "well trained"/"proficient". n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2020 #28
It would mean just that if it stopped there Polybius Aug 2020 #34
Tthe major online merchants who sell such magazines are already selling them to Californians. Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #29
here's why Snoopy 7 Aug 2020 #36
Fantastic! n/t Devil Child Aug 2020 #38
This ban discriminates Turbineguy Aug 2020 #45
Good. Magazine bans are nothing more than security theater friendly_iconoclast Aug 2020 #46
Quite so. They're as meaningless as assault weapons bans. Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #47
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