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63. "Anti-gay people" are not a class of people.

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 11:59 AM

Aug 2020

Any business has the right to refuse service to an individual. That's not what this case asked, though. This preemptive case (there was no gay customer who asked this photographer to do anything) is about wanting the right to put "no gays" on the photographer's website.

With this decision, the door is now open for the photographer to also put "whites only" or "no Muslims" or "no Chinese customers, please" or "Irish need not apply."

We've been through this. The Supreme Court decided decades ago that that kind of discrimination against entire groups of people is unconstitutional.

Nobody is forcing this or any photographer to accept a booking she doesn't like. All she has to say is that she's busy. But that's not what this is about. This is a concerted effort to roll back civil rights laws.

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Christian wedding photographer can't be forced to work same-sex weddings, judge rules [View all] mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2020 OP

Honestly to me it just pisses me off vercetti2021 Aug 2020 #1

I can't understand why some on the left are so concerned with this LiberalLovinLug Aug 2020 #21

I guess its not a huge deal to me vercetti2021 Aug 2020 #28

I agree. dbonds Aug 2020 #32

I can't imagine forcing someone to do their business with me Raine Aug 2020 #33

My instincts go that way too, but then I think how that plays out when applied to race Sapient Donkey Aug 2020 #41

You make some good points, there's a lot to think about Raine Aug 2020 #43

Consider: A Christian troll wants to sue a lesbian baker after she made an antigay cake he ordered Behind the Aegis Aug 2020 #44

If he had picked it up after it Ilsa Aug 2020 #85

So it would be fine for the business to refuse to photograph other people's weddings? yardwork Aug 2020 #45

It's wrong, but it's not a fight worth picking, IMO democrattotheend Aug 2020 #90

This case was brought precisely to restore racist laws. yardwork Aug 2020 #94

You're right, I read the OP but didn't click the link democrattotheend Aug 2020 #99

"Some on the left?" MineralMan Aug 2020 #53

I guess if black people didn't want a bigot to make their lunch they shouldn't have sat in... Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2020 #69

Thank you. yardwork Aug 2020 #70

Bottom line. Roc2020 Aug 2020 #72

Thanks. Those are good points LiberalLovinLug Aug 2020 #86

There is a little bit of a difference democrattotheend Aug 2020 #91

I agree with you democrattotheend Aug 2020 #87

Right. Behind the Aegis Aug 2020 #89

You would think a "lawyer" would know this. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2020 #92

I noticed that too. yardwork Aug 2020 #96

I missed that detail democrattotheend Aug 2020 #98

You commented quickly with at least three posts in this thread, all blaming gay people. yardwork Aug 2020 #101

Read the actual case. All your assumptions are wrong. yardwork Aug 2020 #95

If they won't accept LGBTQ, they should be required ... LakeArenal Aug 2020 #2

So those of us who want other types of photos know who to avoid DBoon Aug 2020 #13

Exactly. Tell us who we are doing (no) business with. LakeArenal Aug 2020 #24

If they won't accept LGBTQ, they should be required ... noneof_theabove Aug 2020 #34

That's different from stating that they won't do business with a category of people. yardwork Aug 2020 #47

And what's stopping them, then, from posting "whites only?" yardwork Aug 2020 #46

Well, I want them too. Then you really know who they are. LakeArenal Aug 2020 #56

Are you serious? yardwork Aug 2020 #57

Are you? One person understood exactly what I meant. LakeArenal Aug 2020 #58

Seriously are there no other wedding photographers in Louisville? Initech Aug 2020 #3

I can't imagine wanting someone like that PatSeg Aug 2020 #9

To make an example out of him. customerserviceguy Aug 2020 #16

Nobody did. This was a preemptive lawsuit. yardwork Aug 2020 #48

I would not want someone that hateful to photograph anything I am affiliated with. appleannie1 Aug 2020 #4

Agreed. I'd make a confederate flag designed cake for a Civil War re-enactor party... forgotmylogin Aug 2020 #37

Who keeps a condone list? bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #5

I wouldn't trust her catchnrelease Aug 2020 #6

I Don't Understand The Basis For These Decisions DallasNE Aug 2020 #7

so its now legal for lgbt to discriminate against xtians. cool. btw the bible does NOT msongs Aug 2020 #8

Don't worry about me MizLibby Aug 2020 #10

Aside fr legal & political issues, cake writers are technicians, photographers are artists. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2020 #11

Um still trying to figure out Cryptoad Aug 2020 #12

Do we have to support MAGAts in our businesses? RainCaster Aug 2020 #14

If I'm correct customerserviceguy Aug 2020 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author Tom Traubert Aug 2020 #23

Personally I think this photographer is full of shit, however........ groundloop Aug 2020 #15

Legalized bigotry. Behind the Aegis Aug 2020 #18

I just don't think THIS particular situation is a hill worth dying on, proverbially ... mr_lebowski Aug 2020 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author Behind the Aegis Aug 2020 #38

So you'd have no problem with a photographer posting "whites only" in their website. yardwork Aug 2020 #49

That's not what I said. mr_lebowski Aug 2020 #59

That's not what this case is about. yardwork Aug 2020 #60

Thanks for that ... if the ramifications extend far beyond working at weddings, then it's different mr_lebowski Aug 2020 #68

It will be ok for Protestants/Catholics to discriminate against each other. keithbvadu2 Aug 2020 #19

The sanctity of Holy matrimony for conservative Christians - Kim Davis keithbvadu2 Aug 2020 #20

That's actually Dick Cheney. Lucky Luciano Aug 2020 #29

Pretty sure she mothered the twins, not fathered them, but ... yeah ... that's hilarious ... (nt) mr_lebowski Aug 2020 #31

Also means that other photographers can advertise against her. roamer65 Aug 2020 #22

Unfortunately, turnabout is not fair play jmowreader Aug 2020 #25

sure they can, atheism is a belief just like the jesus cult is a belief (not i did not say atheism msongs Aug 2020 #27

It's more accurate to say religion (and lack thereof) is a protected class Major Nikon Aug 2020 #35

Forced? Contracting services for a fee is forced? Claire Oh Nette Aug 2020 #26

Who needs a professional photographer? brooklynite Aug 2020 #36

Good for you. Not everybody has a relative willing and able to take photographs. yardwork Aug 2020 #50

Who needs a bigot for a professional photographer? RhodeIslandOne Aug 2020 #78

A friend of mine is in KY and is not a bigot OriginalGeek Aug 2020 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Aug 2020 #39

So she's free to post "whites only" on her website too? yardwork Aug 2020 #55

Of two thoughts: marble falls Aug 2020 #40

So are hypocrite Christian landlords allowed to refuse to rent to same sex couples and Muslims usajumpedtheshark Aug 2020 #42

I conclude from this thread that many DUers don't give a damn about civil rights. yardwork Aug 2020 #51

I came to a similar conclusion. Behind the Aegis Aug 2020 #62

I detect quite a bit of white privilege here, too. yardwork Aug 2020 #64

It is heterosexual privilege (heterosexism) on display. Behind the Aegis Aug 2020 #73

It is very revealing, I agree. yardwork Aug 2020 #74

No! RhodeIslandOne Aug 2020 #77

Did you even read the article? Nobody approached this photographer. yardwork Aug 2020 #80

For those who are saying, "So what?" MineralMan Aug 2020 #52

Thank you. Those who believe Black Lives Matter need to pay attention to this. yardwork Aug 2020 #71

No problem with my supporting equality from private businesses. MineralMan Aug 2020 #75

Court order (PDF) : sl8 Aug 2020 #54

What if a gay photographer were asked to film an anti-gay rally? AmyStrange Aug 2020 #61

"Anti-gay people" are not a class of people. yardwork Aug 2020 #63

You're right, and... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #65

Thank you so much for that! yardwork Aug 2020 #66

You're welcome, and... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #67

Do not give your money to bigots RhodeIslandOne Aug 2020 #76

Read the article. Your assumptions are wrong. yardwork Aug 2020 #81

They'd probably do a sister/brother marriage though. n/m RhodeIslandOne Aug 2020 #79

Will the same judge preside over the trial? sl8 Aug 2020 #82

Find another photographer (There are plenty in Louisville), and move on... SKKY Aug 2020 #83

Read the article. The photographer filed a preemptive lawsuit. yardwork Aug 2020 #97

The Christian Post probably isn't the best source. sl8 Aug 2020 #84

Can we say homophobic photographer Marthe48 Aug 2020 #88

If this goes to the Supreme Court, the decision likely stands by 7-2 Polybius Aug 2020 #100

"Despite ruling for Christian photographer, Louisville will still enforce gay rights law" sl8 Aug 2020 #102