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94. trump '16 was able to draw out some non voters I hope a lot are disillusioned again + stay home now

Fri Aug 21, 2020, 11:20 PM

Aug 2020

yes it would be nice to see them all change and vote Biden but i'll be happy even if it's only trump losing votes with some of them, and they go back under a rock.

trump '20 may draw other nonvoters out imo - people who finally realize how bad he is and that he has a lot supporters so they better get off their ass and vote this time to stop the madness. But once their life is relieved of this insane shit show and the US normalizes, I wonder if those voters could get lazy again and disengage.

There are a lot of non voters i think something like 40% of eligible us citizens do not vote.
? Will the horror of trump years change the importance of voting ?
Will more people realize the danger of not voting
and that candidates are not all the same?
Maybe if they realize something like trump can happen again!

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Sanders: 'The day after Biden's elected we're going to have a serious debate' [View all] left-of-center2012 Aug 2020 OP

Sanders just has to keep it going, cannot stop. Letting everyone know, really, just not good enough. LizBeth Aug 2020 #1

What exactly did he say that you have a problem with? jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #4

Discussion? I read debate. LizBeth Aug 2020 #14

That's how democracy works. jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #16

Sanders is one of the reasons we are where we are today, and he continues. LizBeth Aug 2020 #19

(citation needed) jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #20

(no, it is not needed) LizBeth Aug 2020 #22

He wasn't the nominee in 2016. Isn't the nominee in 2020. jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #24

I disagree Sanders was not a part of the damage done to the very end. LizBeth Aug 2020 #39

And I disagree with whether this is even a discussion that should be had. jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #42

Ah. So you discuss the necessity of "debate" while telling me this conversation isn't necessary. Lol LizBeth Aug 2020 #55

I discuss the necessity of debate AFTER the election jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #56

And on and on and on. So, I stand with my initial comment and we can be done. LizBeth Aug 2020 #58

Sure. jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #60

Sure, um, but.... LizBeth Aug 2020 #66

Good luck, Liz jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #69

(citation needed, part II, ibid strikes back) LanternWaste Aug 2020 #43

This isn't even a discussion worth having jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #45

We shouldn't be discussing this shit, but Bernie just can't help himself. MrsCoffee Aug 2020 #98

I found that ironic telling me we weren't to have the conversation when it was Sanders that LizBeth Aug 2020 #103

True, Ma'am The Magistrate Aug 2020 #105

He has said he loves spoilers. betsuni Aug 2020 #108

Dems can have unity of purpose, and debate the means to achieve their goals Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #33

And again I say, I am tired of Sanders thinking he is the only one when many of our Dems are more LizBeth Aug 2020 #41

... jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #76

Had Bernie dropped out and offered full-throated support of Hillary Clinton, she would have won! machoneman Aug 2020 #100

Point! LizBeth Aug 2020 #102

Yes. betsuni Aug 2020 #107

I don't know, Mr.Bill Aug 2020 #7

Or maybe Sanders ought to be honest enough to let his followers know that there are many Democrats LizBeth Aug 2020 #17

Well, I can't argue with that, either. n/t Mr.Bill Aug 2020 #18

The day after Biden is elected Americans are going to be busy having a sigh of relief. madaboutharry Aug 2020 #2

No. We will be still fighting toget the oversized infected pimple out of the white house jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #9

I'll just be happy after Jan 20th Mr.Bill Aug 2020 #3

He should get a post office named after him awesomerwb1 Aug 2020 #5

Is he a Democrat yet? texasleo Aug 2020 #6

That's what I would hope for him to do. It's called democracy. Mister Ed Aug 2020 #8

The anti sanders posts are amazing. jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #10

He should let it go, he had his time in the sun. katmondoo Aug 2020 #25

Let what go? jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #26

Thank you jorgevlorgan - I was going to post but after reading all the anti sanders I decided not airplaneman Aug 2020 #31

I'm glad! jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #36

Yesterday in a different post I commented on this luv2fly Aug 2020 #72

They are inevitable. jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #77

Why can't he just shut up? Mickju Aug 2020 #11

What exactly did he say that bothered you? jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #13

Read the subject line of the OP. Yes, bashing allies isn't helpful. Please advise Sanders of that. George II Aug 2020 #46

How much money have you given to Biden so far? jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #47

I've contributed about a dozen times so far, I don't make phone calls anymore. Back in February.... George II Aug 2020 #48

Thank you so much for all you have done, George! jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #50

On Biden's campaign website I'm sure there's a link to "local events" or something like that.... George II Aug 2020 #61

I've signed up a ton to volunteer (not an event though) but still haven't been called by any FO jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #63

What state are you in (if you don't mind telling us)? George II Aug 2020 #64

CA jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #65

California is huge, there probably are a bunch of organizations putting together phone bank... George II Aug 2020 #68

Thanks so much! jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #71

Plus, there won't be much going on until after Labor Day anyway. Mid-September is when it really... George II Aug 2020 #70

Got it! jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #73

The subject is: " Read the subject line of the OP. Yes, bashing allies isn't helpful. Please advise Cha Aug 2020 #78

My goal is to get Biden elected. jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #86

Please Advise Sanders to " Let's keep our eyes on the prize... " Cha Aug 2020 #87

He's doing just that. jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #89

Please stop throwing out the "red herrings & strawman" accusations. Cha Aug 2020 #90

Quit spamming ffs. MrsCoffee Aug 2020 #112

I agree. Keep a lid on it until after the election. Auggie Aug 2020 #38

Especially knowing that the Day after Biden is Elected is the Cha Aug 2020 #91

Biden isn't the president-elect until Congress confirms the electoral votes. roamer65 Aug 2020 #12

It's going to be a fight just make sure he's officially the president elect even after he wins. jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #15

We are going to name 200 post offices in first 100 days JI7 Aug 2020 #21

Clever. displacedtexan Aug 2020 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Aug 2020 #99

How about the day after he's inaugurated? 2naSalit Aug 2020 #23

The day after Biden is elected will not be about BS. Squinch Aug 2020 #27

. . . or any other bs. The real agenda, majority vote supported, will be about empedocles Aug 2020 #30

Why doesn't he do anything about the Vermont prisoners in out of state private prisons JI7 Aug 2020 #28

This continuous refusal by some Dems to learn anything from 2018 is . . . empedocles Aug 2020 #34

Sounds like a Worthwhile endeavor to work on in Vermont. Cha Aug 2020 #84

Um, the day after Biden's elected Trump will probably go into all-out destruction mode. CaptainTruth Aug 2020 #29

Exactly! TY for the reality check, CT! Cha Aug 2020 #79

best thing bernie/left can do to move the country to left is stop ignoring talk radio certainot Aug 2020 #32

It's not that I disagree with Bernie's intention flibbitygiblets Aug 2020 #35

For a second, I thought I'd written that comment! PatSeg Aug 2020 #52

It is what is called compromise. It is not either my way or nothing still_one Aug 2020 #53

Now is NOT the time to talk about this, Bernie..... George II Aug 2020 #37

Yes, and this "coalition" he refers to is not just made up of who HE characterizes as progressive still_one Aug 2020 #49

He was complaining that there weren't enough "progressive" speakers at the Convention. But... George II Aug 2020 #57

So he really had nothing to complain about if one knows the Cha Aug 2020 #75

+++ still_one Aug 2020 #81

Aloha.. Cha Aug 2020 #82

..................... still_one Aug 2020 #83

Hey! Cha Aug 2020 #85

What you said! PatSeg Aug 2020 #54

Yeah Sen Sanders.. Talk to Nina, Brie, Sirota & Cornel NOW about Cha Aug 2020 #67

For right now I am putting these kinds of statements from Sanders, on the back burner. I don't still_one Aug 2020 #40

Everybody must gather by Election Day to bring down trump . Everybody can scatter back to their lunasun Aug 2020 #44

Anyone who goes back to "not voting" after what we have gone through the last 3 and 1/2 years, still_one Aug 2020 #51

trump '16 was able to draw out some non voters I hope a lot are disillusioned again + stay home now lunasun Aug 2020 #94

Agreed. jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #59

Hey! We've had 'Serious Debate".. many long grueling Months Cha Aug 2020 #74

Nothing wrong with that... stillcool Aug 2020 #80

Can he fucking shut his mouth until Trump is gone? People are DYING. n/t. NNadir Aug 2020 #88

The day after Biden is elected tavernier Aug 2020 #92

And dealing with Right Wingers that will resist efforts to deal with the Virus JI7 Aug 2020 #93

Hell, we'll probably be fighting COVID WhoWoodaKnew Aug 2020 #95

LOL, no. betsuni Aug 2020 #96

The day after Joe is elected-- lanlady Aug 2020 #97

We Have to Deal With the RW Threat First, Bernie Upward Aug 2020 #101

Sanders says debate the "day after" .... NO! NO! NO! dmr Aug 2020 #104

Stop making the GOP's political ads for them, Bernie. Paladin Aug 2020 #106

Medicare enid602 Aug 2020 #109

The article could have said it all in a much abbreviated version DFW Aug 2020 #110

Trump's damage doesn't stop the day Biden is inaugurated dansolo Aug 2020 #111

This is not helpful now. Justice Aug 2020 #113