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In reply to the discussion: Julian Assange bids to sue Julia Gillard for defamation over WikiLeaks comments [View all]wtmusic
(39,166 posts)23. You're confused
The story about the suit is news.
The op/ed about him being extradited is...an op/ed.
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Julian Assange bids to sue Julia Gillard for defamation over WikiLeaks comments [View all]
Swagman
Oct 2012
OP
Fine. How difficult will it be to prove the case while he is refusing to leave the embassy?
cstanleytech
Oct 2012
#9
Hey, the doubt you cast was on him doing it which I have shown he did do.
cstanleytech
Oct 2012
#106
Maybe because he wants to know for sure what his legal status is in Australia.
JDPriestly
Oct 2012
#173
But see I dont dislike him, I just dont believe that this is a vaste conspiracy against him.
cstanleytech
Oct 2012
#174
Unless they want to establish legal precedent that will intimidate the press. That is totally
JDPriestly
Oct 2012
#183
All the US has to do is to promise everyone that they consider Wikileak's activities to be as much
JDPriestly
Oct 2012
#212
I don't think anyone would have a problem with Wikileaks facilitating whistleblowing.
randome
Oct 2012
#213
Oh, you found evidence that he is to be deported to the US? Link please. nt
cstanleytech
Oct 2012
#11
Funny how all the "news" articles like this show up in "commentary" and "opinion" sections?
George II
Oct 2012
#16
Just because he fears he "may" be charged with a crime isnt evidence that he has been charged.
cstanleytech
Oct 2012
#26
Ah, so he should step outside and see whether he's going to face the death penalty in the US...
wtmusic
Oct 2012
#29
The streets of London would be mighty empty if everyone was as paranoid as him.
George II
Oct 2012
#32
If they were there waiting for him to leave, don't you think they'd be looking AT the building??
George II
Oct 2012
#47
You have a point there, but who knows how long they've been cooling their heels there.
freshwest
Oct 2012
#80
Are you suggesting that the guards are standing there like the guards at the factory
JDPriestly
Oct 2012
#109
It comes from the statement about what the guards are doing in front of the Ecuadorian Embassy in
JDPriestly
Oct 2012
#130
No, he should step out and do what he agreed to do in the first place when he was granted bail
cstanleytech
Oct 2012
#58
Without real reference to statute, legislative history, or court case, it can't be "legal opinion":
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#64
If you pull it all together, yeah. But few of the writings on Assange, pro or con, are objective.
freshwest
Oct 2012
#86
Embarrassing to who? Me? Yeah, if I was in charge. Were they to Bush? Was slavery an embarrassment
freshwest
Oct 2012
#95
There is no anti-Assange crowd. There is likely an anti-Wikileaks, anti-Anonymous crowd.
freshwest
Oct 2012
#155
So it's your contention that these news sites just pulled all this out of their ass?
99th_Monkey
Oct 2012
#148
Your painstaking denial and selective myopia regarding Assange is duly noted. ~nt
99th_Monkey
Oct 2012
#150
Well. So much for debating points. Aspersions are easier to throw about, I suppose.
randome
Oct 2012
#151
Not to worry about standing out in a crowd! But you have yet to provide a single credible argument
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#176
You evidently don't understand the nature of the charge or why it might be brought
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#152
Well, talking to someone who is, in essence, a foreign spy, might be considered noteworthy.
randome
Oct 2012
#198
I'll guess you just didn't read the FOIA release carefully. The investigation in this case concerned
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#206
It's still an investigation, and he said he would cooperate with the Swedish investigation...
George II
Oct 2012
#49
Yes, why should not all accusations that end up in indictment or the country's equivalent be taken t
treestar
Oct 2012
#50
There are no charges. Going into the third year and the Swedish Prosecutor still refuses to file a
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#175
... This is an allegation of rape. The framework list is ticked for rape. The defence accepts
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#124
she's sleeping so how does she know he raped her? Did she scream? Say no? Did he force her to
wordpix
Oct 2012
#156
The case will be tried in Sweden. It's inappropriate to try such matters in the media.
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#158
yes, if he's innocent he should hang around, get extradicted & possibly found guilty on a
wordpix
Oct 2012
#193
"a false accusation of an offense or a malicious misrepresentation of someone's words or actions"
wtmusic
Oct 2012
#10
He probably missed seeing his name in the headlines so concocted this crazy accusation.
George II
Oct 2012
#15
The UK confiscated his passport at the start of the extradition fight
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#163
The Australian PM is liable for the lies she told early on and which she was forced to retract after
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#179
I love how Wikileaks haters are so in denial about how outside this insulated-from-world-news
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#186
the PM said he had committed a crime which is not true. On that basis Mastercard declined
Swagman
Oct 2012
#127
Julia Gillard is from the left side of the Labor party (our notionally centre left party)
soaky
Oct 2012
#159
That was the opinion of the radio host. The link was there when I followed the OP link.
freshwest
Oct 2012
#160
You can safely ignore anything that emanates from any of Alan Jone's orifices! nt
soaky
Oct 2012
#168
You forgot the CIA. Okay, it might be covered under the "United States" but I bet he think they
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#34
He should learn to face his OWN existing legal issues before creating questionable new ones.
George II
Oct 2012
#12
... he used his balcony address to ... cast himself as a guardian of free speech ...
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#67
"... Whoever .. knowingly engages in any act of physical violence against any person or property
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#195
So you don't object to the provisions of 1752(a)(4)? Do you object to 1752(a)(1), which
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#201
After reading the text, I have no idea what you're talking about, so mebbe you can clarify:
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#205
Read the House Judiciary Report: "The United States Secret Service provides protective services
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#217
... he accused the US of a ‘witch-hunt’ that threatened freedom of expression ...
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#68
He can't credibly claim to have been whistle-blowing -- and so he won't claim that
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#78
Then why didn't he follow the whistleblowing statutes that would have protected him? The MWPA would
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#88
Intercepted by whom? Did he really think Dennis Kucinich or Bernie Sanders would not have done the
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#94
So he would just ring Kucinich's office and say, "Yo, I need to talk to Dennis..."
wtmusic
Oct 2012
#96
Mr Manning was in the United States in January 2010. He brought with him material that he chose to
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#139
Do the arithmetic: if he released 750K documents, he couldn't have any clear idea what was in there,
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#101
The 2006 amendments to Australian defamation law generally limit actions to within one year
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#87
Maybe Julian is really hiding in the embassy to escape the various lawyers he's stiffed:
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#91
Various? Are there others, or did you just feel the need to pad your non-story?
wtmusic
Oct 2012
#93
He seems to stiff a lot of folk: those who put up his bail, those who pay him advances for books ...
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#97
He's a rip-off artist: rips off his lawyers, rips off his publishers, rips off his friends
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#103
I've enjoyed reading the rebuttals you have dealt out to these folks!
go west young man
Oct 2012
#113
Lol, but his 'friend' Domscheidt Berg, remember him, is a paragon of lies, I mean virtue. I'm
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#180
Yes, you forgot to mention that this is the lawyer who 'forgot' to tell his client about the emails
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#177
Um, I don't think there's any doubt he harmed his client. As was proven in court.
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#204
... Assange ... plans to run for the Australian Senate in elections due next year ...
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#122
Your method of reckoning is novel. Assange fled Sweden in late September 2010, while
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#135
Assange did not flee Sweden and I have told you this multiple times already yet you continue to post
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#178
... On 21st September 2010, the prosecutor contacted the Appellant’s counsel .. to ask
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#188
The Assange defense lied about that in UK court, and the UK court caught them lying:
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#189
That has zero to do with Assange and you know it. He was told he could leave, period
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#202
... Assange himself told friends in London that he was supposed to return to Stockholm
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#190
Don't worry, a majority of people around the world and even here in the US, DO see what is going on
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#181
I've provided over 20 links in this thread. You've provided none so far.
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#192
Yes, she is a disgrace. I believer there was discussion of her behavior early on and several
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#182