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12. according to my Venezuelan friends who fled for the lives after son & his friends were kidnapped

Sun Oct 7, 2012, 09:24 PM

Oct 2012

it's GREAT!

Kidnappings are common in Venezuela. My friends' son was lucky - he was returned in a day without the kidnappers' finding out he was the son of a Chavez opposition leader. If that had happened, the price would have gone up. Kidnappers sell to other "professional" kidnappers if they find their "express" or random kidnappings are big fish.

The security situation is very bad there and Chavez has mismanaged the country's resources. He has also taken over all TV stations except one, and that one he's threatened to take over by force. I'm not sure how that one independent station left has survived.

Capriles has a huge following - everywhere he's gone to speak, the crowds have been about a million each time, or at least in the hundreds of thousands.

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First exit polls give victory to Henrique Capriles [View all] rayofreason Oct 2012 OP

Is that good or bad? n/t DemzRock Oct 2012 #1

It sucks(if it's true)but some people here will be getting ugly in gloating about it. Ken Burch Oct 2012 #3

It depends.. naaman fletcher Oct 2012 #4

My impression is that insisting you've got the election won before the polls close Ken Burch Oct 2012 #10

of course naaman fletcher Oct 2012 #13

I haven't seen any 'gloating' by Chavez supporters in the LA forum. polly7 Oct 2012 #23

I wasn't saying it was Chavez supporters doing the gloating Ken Burch Oct 2012 #28

according to my Venezuelan friends who fled for the lives after son & his friends were kidnapped wordpix Oct 2012 #12

Chavez is not a good man... Yes, it's GOOD news, if he loses... liberallibral Oct 2012 #21

These people like him. polly7 Oct 2012 #24

Capriles' supporters have been out in at least these numbers, some estimates are a million wordpix Oct 2012 #32

Looks about the size of the crowds that cheered for General Mao and Adolf Hitler... liberallibral Oct 2012 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author polly7 Oct 2012 #45

Sometimes, countries vote for something else. Ken Burch Oct 2012 #2

Secretly wants to? naaman fletcher Oct 2012 #5

If you know what he "secretly" wants to do, it's not a secret. 11cents Oct 2012 #7

Giving up on socialism.. rayofreason Oct 2012 #14

I would have agreed with you 11 years ago, but I'm really becoming less certain JDPriestly Oct 2012 #36

"Our politicians are corrupted by big money from big business"...absolutely! rayofreason Oct 2012 #46

Aside from the corruption in our government, when the market-capitalist side of JDPriestly Oct 2012 #47

Chavez is not only a sick man, battling cancer Warpy Oct 2012 #15

Chavez is a bit of an egocentric, and not a good fit in a democracy. JDPriestly Oct 2012 #37

No, he isn't, which is why I wouldn't have been too surprised Warpy Oct 2012 #39

Madrid newspaper. DeSwiss Oct 2012 #6

You make an important observation. These need to be taken with a grain of salt. Exultant Democracy Oct 2012 #17

Capriles has said he wants to use a Brazil model. iandhr Oct 2012 #8

The Brazilian Workers Party(the one that created that model)says they don't SUPPORT Capriles. Ken Burch Oct 2012 #9

Capriles is a tool of the banking cartel. Dawson Leery Oct 2012 #11

And Ex-President of Brazil, Lula, Laughed To Hear Capriles Claim That! Lula Supports Chavez! Justina For Justice Oct 2012 #33

Beautiful. It really figures! Thanks for the info. about his plans to privatize oil. Hideous. Judi Lynn Oct 2012 #40

Releasing "exit polls" while people are STILL voting is a dirty trick Ken Burch Oct 2012 #16

A question. Is it possible......... socialist_n_TN Oct 2012 #18

Jeez. I didn't read it. That's a hot one. Great reporting. Thanks. n/t Judi Lynn Oct 2012 #19

It's entire north coast is the Caribbean I suppose - where most people live. Lucky Luciano Oct 2012 #30

You'd think Spaniards would KNOW what ocean Venezuela was on Ken Burch Oct 2012 #34

Is "Variance", Varianzas? Ash_F Oct 2012 #20

I'll put my money on Chavez. A fair election in Venezuela is about as likely as one in the US. olddad56 Oct 2012 #22

More likely; they don't have voter ID laws. /nt Ash_F Oct 2012 #31

So you're starting the "It's ONLY a fair election if Capriles wins" meme? Ken Burch Oct 2012 #35

Chavez 54.43 Capriles R 44.47. Per the CNE. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2012 #25

Looks like Chavez won 54.42 to 44.97. joshcryer Oct 2012 #26

First results say it's Chavez. Dawson Leery Oct 2012 #27

Not LBN. Spanish paper got it wrong. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2012 #29

Whatever the first exit polls said, BlueMTexpat Oct 2012 #38

That is until he lost. nt Javaman Oct 2012 #41

I'm not sure why this thread is still up. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2012 #42

Oligarch's polling company with surprising results. JackRiddler Oct 2012 #43