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14. If they approved it, why didn't they have slaves?

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 02:53 PM

Oct 2012

The Bible hardly contains all the things ever said by either Jesus or Paul.

Jesus was absolutely clear everyone was to be treated as a loved one equal to oneself, to feed the poor and care for the sick. He said these things over and over in what we have in the Bible. The monsterousness of modern conservatism is that propaganda twists the message into just the opposite.

The Bible instructs us thousands of times to feed the poor and care for the sick. The GOP is utterly opposed to feeding the poor and caring for the sick, calling it immoral. Instead they focus all their effort on calling abortion a sin, which, incidentally, the Bible doesn't do once. Now, it is okay with me if someone considers abortion a sin, or a none of my business. But I will focus my efforts on feeding the poor and caring for the sick, as instructed because I see it is right.

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Arkansas State Rep: �If Slavery Were So God-Awful, Why Didn�t Jesus Or Paul Condemn It?� [View all] Galraedia Oct 2012 OP

Why do these idiots put Paul on the same level as Jesus LynneSin Oct 2012 #1

I'd say something about the prophecies, but I don't think I should. sakabatou Oct 2012 #3

Offs. GeorgeGist Oct 2012 #7

Of what resurrection carla Oct 2012 #18

Yes there is CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #78

Here we go again, with the supposed third party confirmations that Jesus really existed. stopbush Oct 2012 #103

Even the CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #106

You are right, a dude named Jesus did live, but he was just an average carpenter snooper2 Oct 2012 #116

Jesus is just like Mithra, Apollo, Osiris, etc. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2012 #130

I suggest you research CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #154

You might want to check some other resources, chervilant Oct 2012 #135

Yes. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2012 #147

Somehow, chervilant Oct 2012 #150

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #19

Nonsense. There's no proof that Paul actually existed. If you have such proof, produce it. stopbush Oct 2012 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #61

Paul's like the so-called fifth Beatle... WCGreen Oct 2012 #77

So...Paul is the Pete Best of Christianity? Ken Burch Oct 2012 #176

See the Jefferson Bible genxlib Oct 2012 #26

If for those who don't believe in Jesus, the guy was a pretty admirable person LynneSin Oct 2012 #28

Jesus admirable? Really? stopbush Oct 2012 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #62

Wow CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #89

Well Duh CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #94

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #96

Well CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #99

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #100

If you say so, CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #101

Did he really? CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #81

He was testing her? stopbush Oct 2012 #152

"What an asshole." CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #153

Oh, I've read the Gospels, and Jesus was a MAJOR asshole. stopbush Oct 2012 #157

Not many human beings CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #159

I'm not mad at anyone, especially a fiction like Jesus. stopbush Oct 2012 #160

I can't seem to think CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #161

Maybe you value life a little more if you know you're mortal. Neoma Oct 2012 #56

Yes, the Founders' ideas are unknown to most Americans. The GOPTeaParty rewrote history. freshwest Oct 2012 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #64

I have a similar item today Trailrider1951 Oct 2012 #75

I have a red letter bible (KJV), and those parts are the only ones I have kestrel91316 Oct 2012 #87

That was what I did as I got older. Agree completely. freshwest Oct 2012 #148

I'd like to put in a pitch for the Book of Job, which is great in a black-humor coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #163

Jesus and Paul - both make-believe personages. stopbush Oct 2012 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #65

Posting from CARM CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #91

I didn't CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #97

Your argument CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #98

. Bandit Oct 2012 #57

Paul told them who they could hate Warpy Oct 2012 #80

Paul attacking Women and Gay men? happyslug Oct 2012 #125

Because they worship evil and Jesus doesn't qualify, but Paul most certainly does. Vidar Oct 2012 #84

What's funny about Paul is that most of "his" fundamentalist writings weren't written by him. antigone382 Oct 2012 #88

Paul gets a bad rap ... kwassa Oct 2012 #120

When people start quoting Paul's misogynistic messages, I efhmc Oct 2012 #115

okay Bucky Oct 2012 #187

They like Paul because he was a cranky bald dude who hated sex and feared women. Ken Burch Oct 2012 #175

Told my paster that if Paul is in heaven it's not a place I want to be. efhmc Oct 2012 #188

Paul wrote the Epistles, converted the Gentiles, and is historically more significant than Jesus. Bucky Oct 2012 #186

Why am I surrounded by these people? sinkingfeeling Oct 2012 #2

It must be awful. Wait. I am too. yardwork Oct 2012 #52

rofl n/t Megahurtz Oct 2012 #179

Consider the source. Behind the Aegis Oct 2012 #4

And considering Jesus Did NOT condemn gays or abortion. fasttense Oct 2012 #35

therefore "IF being gay were so god-awful, why didn't Jesus or Paul condemn it"? nt msongs Oct 2012 #5

+1000 - great retort (n/t) leftynyc Oct 2012 #20

And if being rich was so god-awful why didn't Jesus condemn it... LynneSin Oct 2012 #29

You're reading my mind... Jeff In Milwaukee Oct 2012 #49

Er well um not everything they said was meant to be taking literally 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #143

Slavery is a blessing? Then I have an immediate job opening for them. Lasher Oct 2012 #6

Um, yes, Jesus did condemn it. SunSeeker Oct 2012 #8

Very nice take on that statement. Book and verse ? yesphan Oct 2012 #11

Matthew 25: 35-40 SunSeeker Oct 2012 #15

And then thou saw mine pension fund, and thou fuckest me, Elder RobMe. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2012 #21

Someone once said I was a 'Matthew 25' Christian when I qroted this duhneece Oct 2012 #30

Yes, nice. Thanks. yesphan Oct 2012 #44

reads like a bad play snooper2 Oct 2012 #117

Matthew 25:45 SIDURI Oct 2012 #17

Perhaps Jesus did condemn it, yesphan Oct 2012 #9

Am not a believer in the rapture, however, if there really is one I hope God takes southernyankeebelle Oct 2012 #10

Me, I want to come back as a flea so I can bite rich Republicans in the ass. I would like to coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #164

LOL, your funny. Not a bad idea southernyankeebelle Oct 2012 #169

Actually, you should consider... 3catwoman3 Oct 2012 #170

LOL. Well, sort of. (The (lapsed?) Buddhist in me recoils at the coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #171

I remember when H. W. denounced David Duke when he was the Republican nominee for LA governor. Mike Daniels Oct 2012 #12

Why are Arkansas Republicans such stupidest pieces of pig shit? jsr Oct 2012 #13

Their schools? FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #31

If they approved it, why didn't they have slaves? The Second Stone Oct 2012 #14

Dear Second Stone:"Jesus was absolutely clear everyone was to be treated as a loved one" Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2012 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #66

His instructions to me were specific The Second Stone Oct 2012 #70

Oh, so you're not going to hell like everybody else? Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2012 #105

He communicates... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2012 #118

Holy Toast!! Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2012 #127

Supposedly Jesus gave the disciples bread... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2012 #129

Holy Crap King_Klonopin Oct 2012 #112

Welcome to religion discussions on DU. kwassa Oct 2012 #123

"out of context" won't wash. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2012 #126

Best post I've read and 100% accurate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great Caesars Ghost Oct 2012 #172

not sucha blessing if you are the slave. olddad56 Oct 2012 #16

Part of this is our fault Doctor_J Oct 2012 #22

Agreed. FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #33

When one attacks the Confederate Battle Flag, he is certainly denouncing HereSince1628 Oct 2012 #23

IF slavery is so great then why aren't white people wanting to be slaves? booley Oct 2012 #24

It's funny, isn't it? That dissonance. Scootaloo Oct 2012 #41

As a Christian thatwhichisnt Oct 2012 #25

And to welcome the stranger, the immigrant duhneece Oct 2012 #32

see my post #58 above. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2012 #67

I read it... Vasmosn Oct 2012 #90

So you can't see how hateful the alleged words of Jesus are? Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2012 #108

Um, no... Vasmosn Oct 2012 #155

There is no proof of Jesus' existence outside the bible. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2012 #156

Bat. NOLALady Oct 2012 #27

Yes, those xtians are. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2012 #144

The Republicans are going nuts in trying out-crazy each other in Arkansas. From yesterday: Whovian Oct 2012 #34

Paul was as human as anyone here, so he said wrong things sometimes, closeupready Oct 2012 #36

Leaving us the problem of figuring out when he was right and when he was wrong. FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #38

Yes, essentially. closeupready Oct 2012 #39

so many ways barbtries Oct 2012 #37

Because, Rep. Hubbard, catrose Oct 2012 #40

Exactly! Vasmosn Oct 2012 #92

Well sir Paul does the scripture our church is built on... DaDeacon Oct 2012 #42

State GOP pulls funds for now, but will start funneling money once the furor dies down. bullwinkle428 Oct 2012 #43

Good question Zambero Oct 2012 #45

The Abrahamic religions are flawed and inconsistent & contradict themselves. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2012 #145

They actually put Paul much higher. They won't admit this but a study harun Oct 2012 #46

Yeah - like homosexuality lame54 Oct 2012 #47

Quoting himself at length, he digs himself deeper in his hole muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #48

It's not quite accurate to paint Africa of today the way he does either treestar Oct 2012 #59

Oh yes, that's an integral part of his racism muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #63

Good question. NOLALady Oct 2012 #132

he's seen too many of those african cartoons boiling the missionaries in the pot newspeak Oct 2012 #142

Interesting analogue (precedent to Thanksgiving): would the lives of native Americans coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #165

You know what Jesus REALLY didn't condemn? Abortion and gay marriage. (nt) UrbScotty Oct 2012 #53

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. You ignorant Arkansas fuckwad. Lint Head Oct 2012 #55

You know, this is gooing TOO f@cking far....black folks chafed under the lash Ecumenist Oct 2012 #68

You don't need to sulphurdunn Oct 2012 #69

jesus did, indirectly arely staircase Oct 2012 #71

Slimy racist lying republican pig shit - Who could possibly disagree? LaPera Oct 2012 #72

Jesus Horatio Christ, what a dumb ass inbred, redneck fuckstick!! Harry Monroe Oct 2012 #73

Jewish law did not prohibit abortion either...nt barnabas63 Oct 2012 #74

this man really wants his state prison slave labor chain gangs back..with him as the whip cracker Sunlei Oct 2012 #76

Hmmm, lets see, they condemned adultery, can I watch while you stone Gingrich still_one Oct 2012 #79

Very sad. nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #85

Good question. Because they were both just end-times cult leaders enki23 Oct 2012 #86

They probably did until Rome rewrote Christianity in the mold of their slave state Coyotl Oct 2012 #93

The thing these worthless souls will say and do to attract racist vote. Hoyt Oct 2012 #102

Well PD Turk Oct 2012 #104

Mathew 5:17. I guess he skipped that chapter demosincebirth Oct 2012 #107

Then you've got the GOP in Arkansas saying that there should be a Death Penalty blkmusclmachine Oct 2012 #109

If slavery was so wonderful, why didn't you put your neck in the yoke? SemperEadem Oct 2012 #110

This guy is the pioneer. In four years, expect a pro-slavery plank in the Republican platform. tclambert Oct 2012 #111

+1 lunasun Oct 2012 #114

At which point, I think we can realistically expect to see Abraham Lincoln coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #166

As an atheist . . . caseymoz Oct 2012 #113

The 'abolition' of slavery had a lot to do with things Biblical. Radical coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #167

Sorry, but no. caseymoz Oct 2012 #173

Saying that John Brown and the radical abolitionists 'reinterpreted' or 'misread' the coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #178

I'll repeat: caseymoz Oct 2012 #180

As I understand it, Brown found Biblical warrant for abolitionism in the coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #181

And that was all Brown's interpretation. caseymoz Oct 2012 #182

Oh, those crazy fundymentalpatients! hifiguy Oct 2012 #119

Fundamentalists can and will sink lower than their imagined Satan ever would. FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #122

The slavery we had in the US was completely different than that of those days. For one thing back jwirr Oct 2012 #121

Ah, preaching hate in the name of Jesus felix_numinous Oct 2012 #124

Dante reserved the lowest circle of his Inferno to the hypocrites. That coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #168

Soooooo . . . . would Mauch be cool with Jesus being the slave of Herrod? no_hypocrisy Oct 2012 #128

He's right about the bible. JNelson6563 Oct 2012 #131

He's also wrong about the Bible -- he thinks it's a good book FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #133

What medication is Mr. Hubbard taking presently? mwooldri Oct 2012 #134

Religion bashing is self-indulgent and counter-productive Anthony McCarthy Oct 2012 #136

Actually, chervilant Oct 2012 #138

Maybe Jesus and Paul were racists too? wtmusic Oct 2012 #137

sounds like he's using a pre-civil war argument newspeak Oct 2012 #139

Because then, shit bag, slavery was common place and acceptable... and-justice-for-all Oct 2012 #140

the Old Testament says to free your slaves every seven years. yurbud Oct 2012 #141

Because they were ignorant, superstitious goatherders, that's why. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2012 #146

As many still are. panzerfaust Oct 2012 #158

Confederate philosophy, read the dreck (emboldening font mine) and weep: freshwest Oct 2012 #149

Hey, Hubbard, you moron: "do unto others as you would yourself". bemildred Oct 2012 #151

I guess this is final proof that the neanderthals did mate with real humans. truthisfreedom Oct 2012 #162

The right-wing extremists in this country couldn't be more obvious... ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2012 #174

actually, I was thinking the same thing newspeak Oct 2012 #184

It's possible there were originally condemnations of slavery in the Gospels Ken Burch Oct 2012 #177

This thread is making my headache worse. redwitch Oct 2012 #183

All the posts on whether Jesus was historical figure, myth, etc. --- YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT! Bake Oct 2012 #185