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71. jesus did, indirectly

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 07:39 PM

Oct 2012

slavery can not be reconciled with:

Matthew 7:12

12Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

Luke 6:31

31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

A similar passage, a parallel to the Great Commandment, is Luke 10:25-28

25And one day an authority on the law stood up to put Jesus to the test. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to receive eternal life?”
26What is written in the Law?” Jesus replied. “How do you understand it?” 27He answered, “ ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. Love him with all your strength and with all your mind.’(Deuteronomy 6:5) And, ‘Love your neighbor as you love yourself.’ ”
28“You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do that, and you will live.”.

Anyone who says they would wish their neighbor to enslave them is either lying or insane.

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Arkansas State Rep: �If Slavery Were So God-Awful, Why Didn�t Jesus Or Paul Condemn It?� [View all] Galraedia Oct 2012 OP

Why do these idiots put Paul on the same level as Jesus LynneSin Oct 2012 #1

I'd say something about the prophecies, but I don't think I should. sakabatou Oct 2012 #3

Offs. GeorgeGist Oct 2012 #7

Of what resurrection carla Oct 2012 #18

Yes there is CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #78

Here we go again, with the supposed third party confirmations that Jesus really existed. stopbush Oct 2012 #103

Even the CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #106

You are right, a dude named Jesus did live, but he was just an average carpenter snooper2 Oct 2012 #116

Jesus is just like Mithra, Apollo, Osiris, etc. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2012 #130

I suggest you research CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #154

You might want to check some other resources, chervilant Oct 2012 #135

Yes. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2012 #147

Somehow, chervilant Oct 2012 #150

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #19

Nonsense. There's no proof that Paul actually existed. If you have such proof, produce it. stopbush Oct 2012 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #61

Paul's like the so-called fifth Beatle... WCGreen Oct 2012 #77

So...Paul is the Pete Best of Christianity? Ken Burch Oct 2012 #176

See the Jefferson Bible genxlib Oct 2012 #26

If for those who don't believe in Jesus, the guy was a pretty admirable person LynneSin Oct 2012 #28

Jesus admirable? Really? stopbush Oct 2012 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #62

Wow CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #89

Well Duh CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #94

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #96

Well CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #99

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If you say so, CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #101

Did he really? CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #81

He was testing her? stopbush Oct 2012 #152

"What an asshole." CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #153

Oh, I've read the Gospels, and Jesus was a MAJOR asshole. stopbush Oct 2012 #157

Not many human beings CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #159

I'm not mad at anyone, especially a fiction like Jesus. stopbush Oct 2012 #160

I can't seem to think CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #161

Maybe you value life a little more if you know you're mortal. Neoma Oct 2012 #56

Yes, the Founders' ideas are unknown to most Americans. The GOPTeaParty rewrote history. freshwest Oct 2012 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #64

I have a similar item today Trailrider1951 Oct 2012 #75

I have a red letter bible (KJV), and those parts are the only ones I have kestrel91316 Oct 2012 #87

That was what I did as I got older. Agree completely. freshwest Oct 2012 #148

I'd like to put in a pitch for the Book of Job, which is great in a black-humor coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #163

Jesus and Paul - both make-believe personages. stopbush Oct 2012 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #65

Posting from CARM CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #91

I didn't CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #97

Your argument CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #98

. Bandit Oct 2012 #57

Paul told them who they could hate Warpy Oct 2012 #80

Paul attacking Women and Gay men? happyslug Oct 2012 #125

Because they worship evil and Jesus doesn't qualify, but Paul most certainly does. Vidar Oct 2012 #84

What's funny about Paul is that most of "his" fundamentalist writings weren't written by him. antigone382 Oct 2012 #88

Paul gets a bad rap ... kwassa Oct 2012 #120

When people start quoting Paul's misogynistic messages, I efhmc Oct 2012 #115

okay Bucky Oct 2012 #187

They like Paul because he was a cranky bald dude who hated sex and feared women. Ken Burch Oct 2012 #175

Told my paster that if Paul is in heaven it's not a place I want to be. efhmc Oct 2012 #188

Paul wrote the Epistles, converted the Gentiles, and is historically more significant than Jesus. Bucky Oct 2012 #186

Why am I surrounded by these people? sinkingfeeling Oct 2012 #2

It must be awful. Wait. I am too. yardwork Oct 2012 #52

rofl n/t Megahurtz Oct 2012 #179

Consider the source. Behind the Aegis Oct 2012 #4

And considering Jesus Did NOT condemn gays or abortion. fasttense Oct 2012 #35

therefore "IF being gay were so god-awful, why didn't Jesus or Paul condemn it"? nt msongs Oct 2012 #5

+1000 - great retort (n/t) leftynyc Oct 2012 #20

And if being rich was so god-awful why didn't Jesus condemn it... LynneSin Oct 2012 #29

You're reading my mind... Jeff In Milwaukee Oct 2012 #49

Er well um not everything they said was meant to be taking literally 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #143

Slavery is a blessing? Then I have an immediate job opening for them. Lasher Oct 2012 #6

Um, yes, Jesus did condemn it. SunSeeker Oct 2012 #8

Very nice take on that statement. Book and verse ? yesphan Oct 2012 #11

Matthew 25: 35-40 SunSeeker Oct 2012 #15

And then thou saw mine pension fund, and thou fuckest me, Elder RobMe. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2012 #21

Someone once said I was a 'Matthew 25' Christian when I qroted this duhneece Oct 2012 #30

Yes, nice. Thanks. yesphan Oct 2012 #44

reads like a bad play snooper2 Oct 2012 #117

Matthew 25:45 SIDURI Oct 2012 #17

Perhaps Jesus did condemn it, yesphan Oct 2012 #9

Am not a believer in the rapture, however, if there really is one I hope God takes southernyankeebelle Oct 2012 #10

Me, I want to come back as a flea so I can bite rich Republicans in the ass. I would like to coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #164

LOL, your funny. Not a bad idea southernyankeebelle Oct 2012 #169

Actually, you should consider... 3catwoman3 Oct 2012 #170

LOL. Well, sort of. (The (lapsed?) Buddhist in me recoils at the coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #171

I remember when H. W. denounced David Duke when he was the Republican nominee for LA governor. Mike Daniels Oct 2012 #12

Why are Arkansas Republicans such stupidest pieces of pig shit? jsr Oct 2012 #13

Their schools? FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #31

If they approved it, why didn't they have slaves? The Second Stone Oct 2012 #14

Dear Second Stone:"Jesus was absolutely clear everyone was to be treated as a loved one" Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2012 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #66

His instructions to me were specific The Second Stone Oct 2012 #70

Oh, so you're not going to hell like everybody else? Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2012 #105

He communicates... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2012 #118

Holy Toast!! Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2012 #127

Supposedly Jesus gave the disciples bread... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2012 #129

Holy Crap King_Klonopin Oct 2012 #112

Welcome to religion discussions on DU. kwassa Oct 2012 #123

"out of context" won't wash. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2012 #126

Best post I've read and 100% accurate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great Caesars Ghost Oct 2012 #172

not sucha blessing if you are the slave. olddad56 Oct 2012 #16

Part of this is our fault Doctor_J Oct 2012 #22

Agreed. FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #33

When one attacks the Confederate Battle Flag, he is certainly denouncing HereSince1628 Oct 2012 #23

IF slavery is so great then why aren't white people wanting to be slaves? booley Oct 2012 #24

It's funny, isn't it? That dissonance. Scootaloo Oct 2012 #41

As a Christian thatwhichisnt Oct 2012 #25

And to welcome the stranger, the immigrant duhneece Oct 2012 #32

see my post #58 above. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2012 #67

I read it... Vasmosn Oct 2012 #90

So you can't see how hateful the alleged words of Jesus are? Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2012 #108

Um, no... Vasmosn Oct 2012 #155

There is no proof of Jesus' existence outside the bible. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2012 #156

Bat. NOLALady Oct 2012 #27

Yes, those xtians are. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2012 #144

The Republicans are going nuts in trying out-crazy each other in Arkansas. From yesterday: Whovian Oct 2012 #34

Paul was as human as anyone here, so he said wrong things sometimes, closeupready Oct 2012 #36

Leaving us the problem of figuring out when he was right and when he was wrong. FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #38

Yes, essentially. closeupready Oct 2012 #39

so many ways barbtries Oct 2012 #37

Because, Rep. Hubbard, catrose Oct 2012 #40

Exactly! Vasmosn Oct 2012 #92

Well sir Paul does the scripture our church is built on... DaDeacon Oct 2012 #42

State GOP pulls funds for now, but will start funneling money once the furor dies down. bullwinkle428 Oct 2012 #43

Good question Zambero Oct 2012 #45

The Abrahamic religions are flawed and inconsistent & contradict themselves. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2012 #145

They actually put Paul much higher. They won't admit this but a study harun Oct 2012 #46

Yeah - like homosexuality lame54 Oct 2012 #47

Quoting himself at length, he digs himself deeper in his hole muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #48

It's not quite accurate to paint Africa of today the way he does either treestar Oct 2012 #59

Oh yes, that's an integral part of his racism muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #63

Good question. NOLALady Oct 2012 #132

he's seen too many of those african cartoons boiling the missionaries in the pot newspeak Oct 2012 #142

Interesting analogue (precedent to Thanksgiving): would the lives of native Americans coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #165

You know what Jesus REALLY didn't condemn? Abortion and gay marriage. (nt) UrbScotty Oct 2012 #53

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. You ignorant Arkansas fuckwad. Lint Head Oct 2012 #55

You know, this is gooing TOO f@cking far....black folks chafed under the lash Ecumenist Oct 2012 #68

You don't need to sulphurdunn Oct 2012 #69

jesus did, indirectly arely staircase Oct 2012 #71

Slimy racist lying republican pig shit - Who could possibly disagree? LaPera Oct 2012 #72

Jesus Horatio Christ, what a dumb ass inbred, redneck fuckstick!! Harry Monroe Oct 2012 #73

Jewish law did not prohibit abortion either...nt barnabas63 Oct 2012 #74

this man really wants his state prison slave labor chain gangs back..with him as the whip cracker Sunlei Oct 2012 #76

Hmmm, lets see, they condemned adultery, can I watch while you stone Gingrich still_one Oct 2012 #79

Very sad. nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #85

Good question. Because they were both just end-times cult leaders enki23 Oct 2012 #86

They probably did until Rome rewrote Christianity in the mold of their slave state Coyotl Oct 2012 #93

The thing these worthless souls will say and do to attract racist vote. Hoyt Oct 2012 #102

Well PD Turk Oct 2012 #104

Mathew 5:17. I guess he skipped that chapter demosincebirth Oct 2012 #107

Then you've got the GOP in Arkansas saying that there should be a Death Penalty blkmusclmachine Oct 2012 #109

If slavery was so wonderful, why didn't you put your neck in the yoke? SemperEadem Oct 2012 #110

This guy is the pioneer. In four years, expect a pro-slavery plank in the Republican platform. tclambert Oct 2012 #111

+1 lunasun Oct 2012 #114

At which point, I think we can realistically expect to see Abraham Lincoln coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #166

As an atheist . . . caseymoz Oct 2012 #113

The 'abolition' of slavery had a lot to do with things Biblical. Radical coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #167

Sorry, but no. caseymoz Oct 2012 #173

Saying that John Brown and the radical abolitionists 'reinterpreted' or 'misread' the coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #178

I'll repeat: caseymoz Oct 2012 #180

As I understand it, Brown found Biblical warrant for abolitionism in the coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #181

And that was all Brown's interpretation. caseymoz Oct 2012 #182

Oh, those crazy fundymentalpatients! hifiguy Oct 2012 #119

Fundamentalists can and will sink lower than their imagined Satan ever would. FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #122

The slavery we had in the US was completely different than that of those days. For one thing back jwirr Oct 2012 #121

Ah, preaching hate in the name of Jesus felix_numinous Oct 2012 #124

Dante reserved the lowest circle of his Inferno to the hypocrites. That coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #168

Soooooo . . . . would Mauch be cool with Jesus being the slave of Herrod? no_hypocrisy Oct 2012 #128

He's right about the bible. JNelson6563 Oct 2012 #131

He's also wrong about the Bible -- he thinks it's a good book FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #133

What medication is Mr. Hubbard taking presently? mwooldri Oct 2012 #134

Religion bashing is self-indulgent and counter-productive Anthony McCarthy Oct 2012 #136

Actually, chervilant Oct 2012 #138

Maybe Jesus and Paul were racists too? wtmusic Oct 2012 #137

sounds like he's using a pre-civil war argument newspeak Oct 2012 #139

Because then, shit bag, slavery was common place and acceptable... and-justice-for-all Oct 2012 #140

the Old Testament says to free your slaves every seven years. yurbud Oct 2012 #141

Because they were ignorant, superstitious goatherders, that's why. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2012 #146

As many still are. panzerfaust Oct 2012 #158

Confederate philosophy, read the dreck (emboldening font mine) and weep: freshwest Oct 2012 #149

Hey, Hubbard, you moron: "do unto others as you would yourself". bemildred Oct 2012 #151

I guess this is final proof that the neanderthals did mate with real humans. truthisfreedom Oct 2012 #162

The right-wing extremists in this country couldn't be more obvious... ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2012 #174

actually, I was thinking the same thing newspeak Oct 2012 #184

It's possible there were originally condemnations of slavery in the Gospels Ken Burch Oct 2012 #177

This thread is making my headache worse. redwitch Oct 2012 #183

All the posts on whether Jesus was historical figure, myth, etc. --- YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT! Bake Oct 2012 #185