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freshwest

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17. I didn't go for it, but I remember the intense advertising for those loan deals.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 11:40 PM
Oct 2012

They were reading like, 'No money down! Buy a home, it's cheaper than rent! It's time for you to do the right thing for your family's future and invest in a home!'

It was really deceptive about the huge risk being taken by all parties. In years gone by, a good sized down payment was required, calculations done to determine the ratio of annual income to the cost of the house, and the loan, computed.

Because just being able to make a note payment wasn't going to sufficient, insurance, repairs, community fees, etc., also needed to be taken into account. A mortgage is a risk to begin with, for all parties and predicated on the assumption that the borrower's income will e steady, not take a drastic cut through layoff, health or down sizing hours, corporate bankruptcy, or many other factors that are out of both the lender and the borrower's control. I remember when a down of from 10% to 30% was not unheard of.

Also a lot of questions were asked, even asking childless working couples, if they intended to have any and would one of them be staying home for childcare. In addition to credit histories, work and employer questions, other family members vouching for them, etc.

I'm not saying that a great many of them were in over their heads, and as Warren said, the crooks are the ones who knew very well the loans would fail and expected the federal government to bail out the bad loans like the S & L mess during RR's term, when they de-regulated.

In the eighties, they adverstised 'balloon note' mortgages, once again, based on the assumption of stable income, not only that, but rising income. The major problem in this was the failure of income to keep to to the cost of housing. I read a book years back that said a housing bubble was inevitable because of the inflation caused by Nixon changing the basis of US currency. IDK.

I don't blame the homeowners, though. The people who signed those loans may have been ignorant or impractical, but I'll bet the majority were being as responsible as they could, but were just overwhelmed. And they signed loans written by bad actors who knew better.

It's amazing that this one lawsuit against the banks and this is one of several, has finally made it to court with the number of people involved. This is now a criminal case, bigger than most class action lawsuits and I think it will proceed quickly.

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This is good, naaman fletcher Oct 2012 #1
Actually, ARE charging the bankers: dixiegrrrrl Oct 2012 #8
Naturally... And it doesn't happen overnight. The thieves have no chance to escape this. freshwest Oct 2012 #12
I know of no civil cases that have been more than a financial triviality in decades progree Oct 2012 #16
I do not call your viewpoint cynical... dixiegrrrrl Oct 2012 #23
Those are civiil charges naaman fletcher Oct 2012 #21
More of this, please -- Hell Hath No Fury Oct 2012 #2
I thought maybe they had actually gone after the banksters... NYtoBush-Drop Dead Oct 2012 #3
I hope this includes the deceptive and predatory mortgage lending BEFORE the bubble burst progree Oct 2012 #4
Looks like a good start. byeya Oct 2012 #5
Keep it up. McCamy Taylor Oct 2012 #6
And this is October 2102 and not June 2008 because? MarinCoUSA Oct 2012 #7
"why so long to crack this up? " dixiegrrrrl Oct 2012 #9
And 73,000 homeowners who lost their homes are scattered to the wind. Herding cats. freshwest Oct 2012 #13
The question is, should they have been in those homes in the first place? OnlinePoker Oct 2012 #15
I didn't go for it, but I remember the intense advertising for those loan deals. freshwest Oct 2012 #17
Actually, while the mess may have started from sub-prime loans dixiegrrrrl Oct 2012 #18
The banks were bundling mortgages to back securities that S&P gave a AAA rating... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #20
Sounds like a good start, but I wonder how long it will take Fox "news" to say it was done for... Up2Late Oct 2012 #10
I know someone who was renting a house and the owner got sucked in by that sub-prime crap... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #11
NICE! Up2Late Oct 2012 #14
Nice to see DU members pissing all over this administration's good work. nt Comrade_McKenzie Oct 2012 #19
Nice to see the DU Thread Nazis with nothing substantive to add except to crap on their fellow progree Oct 2012 #22
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