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79. Even if that had been true... they aren't afraid of it now

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:31 PM

Nov 2020

Democrats aren't in a position to threaten a "packed" court. We aren't particularly likely to win both GA seats, but even if we did there isn't enough support to end the filibuster. That was a possibility if we picked up the 5-9 seats that some predicted, but it no longer in the cards.

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'The ACA is safe': Justice Kavanaugh shocks legal experts by suggesting he will save Obamacare [View all] srose58089 Nov 2020 OP

The mandate is what makes it work greenjar_01 Nov 2020 #1

Maybe so, but the mandate is what hurts people The Mouth Nov 2020 #7

Maybe so greenjar_01 Nov 2020 #9

Again, you state someting as if it were a fact The Mouth Nov 2020 #86

There is a better way. Dump the insurance system and enact universal care like every everybody else. apnu Nov 2020 #17

Public option qazplm135 Nov 2020 #19

Exactly. To please the GOP which voted against it anyway. SharonAnn Nov 2020 #28

He wasn't the only one... regnaD kciN Nov 2020 #83

The mandate IS TOO EXPENSIVE if you don't qualify for the subsidy Auggie Nov 2020 #45

What hurts everybody Mr.Bill Nov 2020 #49

Social Security and Medicare are mandates. LiberalFighter Nov 2020 #60

Any health system requires everyone participate. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #63

how does it hurt people? Dyedinthewoolliberal Nov 2020 #73

The people that keep saying they want to KEEP their private insurance. HOW many of those policies.. usaf-vet Nov 2020 #75

Better way? Taxes? Cons won't like that. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2020 #78

So how much was the mandate? I bet most folks don't even know. nt Boogiemack Nov 2020 #85

That's what I thought. Sucha NastyWoman Nov 2020 #8

It seems like we democrats can't be bothered to explain wahat is very explainable. not_the_one Nov 2020 #24

The rebublicans already explained it. Mr.Bill Nov 2020 #50

That's a great idea... OneGrassRoot Nov 2020 #64

yeah it has. mopinko Nov 2020 #42

Kinda but not really mathematic Nov 2020 #14

In 2007/2008. Obama was against the mandate karynnj Nov 2020 #18

The mandate hurt me when I first applied Polybius Nov 2020 #30

I'm sure that actually did happen to some people greenjar_01 Nov 2020 #37

It happened to me, too. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2020 #66

not anymore AlexSFCA Nov 2020 #44

it has had no penalty for years quaker bill Nov 2020 #87

He wants to be remembered for something other than bursting into tears Aristus Nov 2020 #2

None of Trump's nominees can be fired; some may actually care about their legacies. lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #62

Con Supremos are Playing Along for Now StClone Nov 2020 #74

Even if that had been true... they aren't afraid of it now FBaggins Nov 2020 #79

If we win one we will likely win both Georgia Senate seats. StClone Nov 2020 #82

I'm not optimistic, but it doesn't matter as far as SCOTUS pressure is concerned FBaggins Nov 2020 #84

How about we excise the mandate ... GeorgeGist Nov 2020 #3

????? niyad Nov 2020 #13

What? Rebl2 Nov 2020 #26

I think that's already a law Polybius Nov 2020 #31

Sorry, I don't want Russians voting in our elections! LeftInTX Nov 2020 #35

this doesn't tell us anything yet. samsingh Nov 2020 #4

Agree. Talk is cheap! LeftInTX Nov 2020 #36

Have observed that a number of Kavanaugh and/or Gorsuch votes have parted company Zambero Nov 2020 #5

So funny - seems he learned he'd been assigned Backseat Driver Nov 2020 #6

Right now the people without the insurance go to the emergency room and get treated. LiberalArkie Nov 2020 #10

Their "treatment" is enough to get them stabilized and then booted out the door progree Nov 2020 #16

This has been going on since the 90's LeftInTX Nov 2020 #38

"Childbirth, major trauma, life and death situations are admitted." - I didn't say they weren't progree Nov 2020 #67

Got it! Agree LeftInTX Nov 2020 #69

The point of overturning the ACA, House of Roberts Nov 2020 #11

The subsidy is based on self reported income Merlot Nov 2020 #22

COBRA will nearly always be priced out of your reach - Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #40

Wow, I didn't know that. For years on the ACA, they asked for an estimate of my annual progree Nov 2020 #68

You should get a statement from whoever provides your insurance Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #76

Thanks for the great info. The ACA is so complex progree Nov 2020 #81

For all practical purposes the Mandate ended in 2017. The ACA will remain intact after SC rules, Hoyt Nov 2020 #12

+1 2naSalit Nov 2020 #34

The premise of the litigation is that it is unconstitutional without a mandate - Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #41

I get that, and the SC is going to say it is not UnConstitutional. But if everyone wants to worry, Hoyt Nov 2020 #46

Glad you have a crystal ball. Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #48

You seem to have a crystal ball too. All the Appeals Court did was strike down the Mandate, nothing Hoyt Nov 2020 #51

Her access to health care has been under constant attack, Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #54

I know it has been under attack, and it has survived everyone of them. Never asked you to Hoyt Nov 2020 #56

It's a bit hard to take, "The ACA will remain intact after SC rules" Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #58

Man, I hope you're right. BigmanPigman Nov 2020 #77

IMO when conservatives like him say such things in public it all too often means the opposite. Ford_Prefect Nov 2020 #15

Biden wants the public option IronLionZion Nov 2020 #20

I like the idea of a public option in which everyone gets a health credit that pays for it in full Sapient Donkey Nov 2020 #57

Not surprised, really question everything Nov 2020 #21

The last Justice that we appointed that moved to the right was Byron White in 1962 Polybius Nov 2020 #32

He's not the only one signaling skepticism today. yardwork Nov 2020 #23

Posturing. I don't trust him for a second. not_the_one Nov 2020 #25

Exactly! Why does anyone here believe anything Kavanaugh has to say? Earthshine2 Nov 2020 #52

What the hell happened? Aristus Nov 2020 #27

It's all profit-driven healthcare bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #29

Roberts has already said similar. If they're telling the truth about their opinions.... George II Nov 2020 #33

Did anyone administer a sobriety test before he said that? Mr. Ected Nov 2020 #39

I don't know why Repubs were so certain the ACA would fall. Calista241 Nov 2020 #43

Exactly. I'd add, I don't know why so many Democrats are certain it will be repealed. Hoyt Nov 2020 #47

The justices are aware Barrett's confirmation tarnished the court dlk Nov 2020 #53

Maybe Brett wants you to know that he will play nice and we don't need to 58Sunliner Nov 2020 #55

When it comes to Republicans dlk Nov 2020 #59

The ACA will not be severely harmed WHILE the GA senate seats are undecided. Hortensis Nov 2020 #61

The ACA is better for private insurance companies than Medicare for All. mackdaddy Nov 2020 #65

Brett knows Kamala's eyeing him up closely... Blue Owl Nov 2020 #70

Count me as thinking these Angelic Faces are too good to be true bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #71

Hold the champagne. Assume nothing. Raven123 Nov 2020 #72

More stress, just what I do NOT need for my fragile health. BigmanPigman Nov 2020 #80