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Omaha Steve

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Sat Nov 14, 2020, 09:04 AM Nov 2020

Can Trump win with 'fantasy' electors bid? State GOP says no [View all]

Source: AP

By BOB CHRISTIE and NICHOLAS RICCARDI

Republican leaders in four critical states won by President-elect Joe Biden say they won’t participate in a legally dubious scheme to flip their state’s electors to vote for President Donald Trump. Their comments effectively shut down a half-baked plot some Republicans floated as a last chance to keep Trump in the White House.

State GOP lawmakers in Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin have all said they would not intervene in the selection of electors, who ultimately cast the votes that secure a candidate’s victory. Such a move would violate state law and a vote of the people, several noted.

“I do not see, short of finding some type of fraud — which I haven’t heard of anything — I don’t see us in any serious way addressing a change in electors,” said Rusty Bowers, Arizona’s Republican House speaker, who says he’s been inundated with emails pleading for the legislature to intervene. “They are mandated by statute to choose according to the vote of the people.”

The idea loosely involves GOP-controlled legislatures dismissing Biden’s popular vote wins in their states and opting to select Trump electors. While the endgame was unclear, it appeared to hinge on the expectation that a conservative-leaning Supreme Court would settle any dispute over the move.



FILE - In this Nov. 8, 2020, file photo supporters of President Donald Trump protest the election outside of the Clark County Election Department in North Las Vegas. Republican leaders in four critical states won by President-elect Joe Biden say they won’t participate in a legally dubious scheme to flip their state’s electors to vote for President Donald Trump. Their comments effectively shut down a half-baked plot some Republicans floated as a last chance to keep Trump in the White House. (AP Photo/John Locher, File)


Read more: https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-legislature-pennsylvania-b199b2debc87fbb20612a48835bc0dba

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I applaud their integrity mdbl Nov 2020 #1
Bowers represents LD25, where I reside... AZ8theist Nov 2020 #4
You mean he'll pull a Lindsay Graham? mdbl Nov 2020 #6
It would seem in this instance that he does have some integrity. nt dware Nov 2020 #7
He's a lifer with no possible threat of losing. He can say whatever he wants. AZ8theist Nov 2020 #32
Ok. nt dware Nov 2020 #33
Well this same idea was brought up in '16 too. Just not as seriously. oldsoftie Nov 2020 #13
True but at least Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #17
I fairly sure it was for SELF interest. Some of key players in a state are worried about.... usaf-vet Nov 2020 #2
Three sentences makes clear exactly what Trump's plan was: Sloumeau Nov 2020 #3
Trump: "and we would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for those meddling kids!" Ligyron Nov 2020 #10
"Trump figured that the Supreme Court would rule in Trump's favor" not_the_one Nov 2020 #21
I never trust a single thing any Republican says, when they Roisin Ni Fiachra Nov 2020 #5
Good thinking, Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #18
He would have to change the electors in at least 3 states. kentuck Nov 2020 #8
Taking all the fun out of the conspiracy theory biz... brooklynite Nov 2020 #9
Including right here!! posted DOZENS of times with absolute certainty it would happen Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #15
I do understand why people Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #19
Agree! Even as I referenced links to SCOTUS rulings to some of those posts, as to why it wouldn't Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #24
Yeah, Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #26
Thank you. Glad you were paying attention. not_the_one Nov 2020 #23
But there's plenty of experts Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #25
I don't think anyone was going lalala. I never posted ANY disagree comments without links Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #29
Who's seriously left in the GOP who still wants to throw himself on the fire BusyBeingBest Nov 2020 #11
Oh, you know the GOP... NCDem47 Nov 2020 #12
Abolish the Electoral College and we'll never have to worry about that again William Seger Nov 2020 #14
100% Agree!!! Rebl2 Nov 2020 #16
The very fact that this little scheme was considered not_the_one Nov 2020 #28
Thank you. The first step to achieving change, crickets Nov 2020 #34
This is an open admission by the Trump people that the only way they can win is if they cheat. n/t Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2020 #20
They don't care Major Nikon Nov 2020 #22
Correct, they justify cheating as they have continuously onetexan Nov 2020 #31
"a half-baked plot" - finally, some truth telling in journalism! I really thought for a while I Kashkakat v.2.0 Nov 2020 #27
THANKS to them, elleng Nov 2020 #30
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