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bananas

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Wed Oct 10, 2012, 10:51 PM Oct 2012

Russia Won’t Renew Pact on Weapons With U.S. [View all]

Source: New York Times

The Russian government said Wednesday that it would not renew a hugely successful 20-year partnership with the United States to safeguard and dismantle nuclear and chemical weapons in the former Soviet Union when the program expires next spring, a potentially grave setback in the already fraying relationship between the former cold war enemies.

The Kremlin’s refusal to renew the Nunn-Lugar Cooperative Threat Reduction Program would put an end to a multibillion-dollar effort, financed largely by American taxpayers, that is widely credited with removing all nuclear weapons from the former Soviet republics of Ukraine, Kazakhstan and Belarus; deactivating more than 7,600 strategic nuclear warheads; and eliminating huge stockpiles of nuclear missiles and chemical weapons, as well as launchers and other equipment and military sites that supported unconventional weapons.

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In a statement on its Web site, the Russian Foreign Ministry said that the Obama administration had proposed renewing the arrangement but that Washington was well aware of Russia’s opposition. “American partners know that their proposal is not consistent with our ideas about what forms and on what basis further cooperation should be built,” the statement said.

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Mr. Lugar, who is leaving the Senate at the end of this year, visited Moscow in August to begin pressing for renewal of the program and found Russian officials resistant. “The Russian government indicated a desire to make changes to the Nunn-Lugar Umbrella Agreement as opposed to simply extending it,” he said Wednesday. “At no time did officials indicate that, at this stage of negotiation, they were intent on ending it, only amending it.”

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Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/11/world/europe/russia-wont-renew-pact-with-us-on-weapons.html?_r=0

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Does this mean I can't pick up a geek named Bob Oct 2012 #1
If you don't have anything intelligent to add psychopomp Oct 2012 #4
acutally, psychopomp... a geek named Bob Oct 2012 #9
Just curious, but what's the US track record on treaties... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #17
pretty bad, actually a geek named Bob Oct 2012 #18
We view them as convenient tools to befuddle the rubes with. bemildred Oct 2012 #21
Lugar's defeat to a conservative Republican Tea Partier is a factor bananas Oct 2012 #2
True kenfrequed Oct 2012 #14
Hedging against a Romney win. Turbineguy Oct 2012 #3
Russia Helping Iran Bullionwar Oct 2012 #5
Uhm kenfrequed Oct 2012 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Stake Oct 2012 #26
Methinks Putin's a tad too realpolitik for that kind of silliness. (nt) Posteritatis Oct 2012 #30
From the article dipsydoodle Oct 2012 #6
You apparently missed the flap over putting ABMs in Poland cprise Oct 2012 #7
Yes that too. dipsydoodle Oct 2012 #8
I never really understood the reasoning behind the Russians a geek named Bob Oct 2012 #10
having a ring of American military bases on your borders--what's the harm? Alamuti Lotus Oct 2012 #13
a ring of short range missiles with limited weight payloads a geek named Bob Oct 2012 #15
It reduces the deterrent effect of Russian missiles. bananas Oct 2012 #19
I'd rather go long on defensive systems, than rely on MAD and the old Soviet's sense of balance. a geek named Bob Oct 2012 #20
There is no defense against ballistic missiles, that's what they have been throwing money at for 30 bemildred Oct 2012 #22
They can be shot down while in boost phase cprise Oct 2012 #24
I have this notion that the Russians are not going to shoot down their own missiles. bemildred Oct 2012 #28
Yeesh. They could be launched from Poland. cprise Oct 2012 #32
Right. nt bemildred Oct 2012 #33
Ugh. Could make Rmoney appear more credible in the upcoming foreign policy debate. nt JudyM Oct 2012 #11
“At no time did officials indicate that, at this stage of negotiation, they were intent on ending it LaPera Oct 2012 #12
I think this is really a power play by Putin fujiyama Oct 2012 #23
Putin is saying put up or shut up. bemildred Oct 2012 #29
American and UK media indulge in Russophobia more or less constantly cprise Oct 2012 #34
We love our enemies, and won't give them up. bemildred Oct 2012 #35
Russians are not subtle or diplomatic. I love weed Oct 2012 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Stake Oct 2012 #27
I'm getting a flashback to the previous decade. (nt) Posteritatis Oct 2012 #31
I disagree. knitter4democracy Oct 2012 #36
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