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bemildred

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22. There is no defense against ballistic missiles, that's what they have been throwing money at for 30
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 08:56 PM
Oct 2012

years with no success, huge sums of money mind you, after the physicists told them it would not work. (The math thing again.) So you can't go long on defense because there is no defense to go long on. You have to have something that might do the job first, and all they have is something that will cost a lot money. That is what they are so hot to get lasers for, they could be fast enough, in theory. ABMs are a waste of time, countermeasures are easy and cheap, and ABMs are difficult and expensive. This is not a new problem, it's why guided ballistic missiles are so popular, they can't be stopped, though you might get lucky now and then.

Meanwhile, if we put a bunch of missiles in Poland, guess what, they can shoot them at Russia, anytime they want, and put any warhead we want on them too, if it fits, so all you have is a lot of missile sites close to Russia that we can do whatever we like with, that we CLAIM are only for "defense". (And don't tell me we would not lie about that either.)

And the other guys comment about destabilization is right too, Russia is not going to just sit there while we ring them with missiles in the attempt to somehow make global thermonuclear war "thinkable", and no amount of dissembling and bullshit is going to change that.

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Does this mean I can't pick up a geek named Bob Oct 2012 #1
If you don't have anything intelligent to add psychopomp Oct 2012 #4
acutally, psychopomp... a geek named Bob Oct 2012 #9
Just curious, but what's the US track record on treaties... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #17
pretty bad, actually a geek named Bob Oct 2012 #18
We view them as convenient tools to befuddle the rubes with. bemildred Oct 2012 #21
Lugar's defeat to a conservative Republican Tea Partier is a factor bananas Oct 2012 #2
True kenfrequed Oct 2012 #14
Hedging against a Romney win. Turbineguy Oct 2012 #3
Russia Helping Iran Bullionwar Oct 2012 #5
Uhm kenfrequed Oct 2012 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Stake Oct 2012 #26
Methinks Putin's a tad too realpolitik for that kind of silliness. (nt) Posteritatis Oct 2012 #30
From the article dipsydoodle Oct 2012 #6
You apparently missed the flap over putting ABMs in Poland cprise Oct 2012 #7
Yes that too. dipsydoodle Oct 2012 #8
I never really understood the reasoning behind the Russians a geek named Bob Oct 2012 #10
having a ring of American military bases on your borders--what's the harm? Alamuti Lotus Oct 2012 #13
a ring of short range missiles with limited weight payloads a geek named Bob Oct 2012 #15
It reduces the deterrent effect of Russian missiles. bananas Oct 2012 #19
I'd rather go long on defensive systems, than rely on MAD and the old Soviet's sense of balance. a geek named Bob Oct 2012 #20
There is no defense against ballistic missiles, that's what they have been throwing money at for 30 bemildred Oct 2012 #22
They can be shot down while in boost phase cprise Oct 2012 #24
I have this notion that the Russians are not going to shoot down their own missiles. bemildred Oct 2012 #28
Yeesh. They could be launched from Poland. cprise Oct 2012 #32
Right. nt bemildred Oct 2012 #33
Ugh. Could make Rmoney appear more credible in the upcoming foreign policy debate. nt JudyM Oct 2012 #11
“At no time did officials indicate that, at this stage of negotiation, they were intent on ending it LaPera Oct 2012 #12
I think this is really a power play by Putin fujiyama Oct 2012 #23
Putin is saying put up or shut up. bemildred Oct 2012 #29
American and UK media indulge in Russophobia more or less constantly cprise Oct 2012 #34
We love our enemies, and won't give them up. bemildred Oct 2012 #35
Russians are not subtle or diplomatic. I love weed Oct 2012 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Stake Oct 2012 #27
I'm getting a flashback to the previous decade. (nt) Posteritatis Oct 2012 #31
I disagree. knitter4democracy Oct 2012 #36
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