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Divernan

(15,480 posts)
14. The EU is the single largest donor of foreign aid to Palestinians.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 08:26 AM
Oct 2012

I've studied the history and law of the very democratic European Union at an Irish university. Your completely undocumented accusations/conclusions are so fact free as to be beyond bizarre. Given the EU's demonstrated history of setting provision of humanitarian aid, improved and equal standards of living for all citizens, and protection of ethnic minorities as prerequisites for membership to some very troubled Eastern European countries, I think the EU is the best hope to force an equitable two state solution on Israel and Palestine. Further, one poll showed 81% of Israelis want EU membership. This gives the EU tremendous leverage to push the peace process as a condition for membership.

Here are some facts as to Palestine-European relations:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine%E2%80%93European_Union_relations

EU position on Israeli issues


The EU has insisted that it will not recognise any changes to the 1967 borders other than those agreed between the parties. Israel's settlement program has therefore led to some tensions, and EU states consider these settlements illegal under international law.[8][9]

In 2008, during the French presidency of the Council, the European Union strived to increase cooperation with the US on Middle-Eastern issues, inter alia with a view to coordinating common pressures on Israel.[10]

The EU has also been highly critical of Israeli military actions in the Palestinian territories and Lebanon, often referring to them as "disproportionate" and "excessive force" and calling for an immediate cease-fire. During Operation Defensive Shield, the European Parliament passed a non-binding resolution calling for economic sanctions on Israel and an arms embargo on both parties. Following the Gaza War, the European Parliament endorsed the Goldstone Report. The EU has also been critical of Israel's Gaza blockade, referring to it as "collective punishment"

EU Position on Palestinian statehood

In July 2009, EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana called for the United Nations to recognise the Palestinian state by a set deadline even if a settlement had not been reached: "The mediator has to set the timetable. If the parties are not able to stick to it, then a solution backed by the international community should ... be put on the table. After a fixed deadline, a UN Security Council resolution ... would accept the Palestinian state as a full member of the UN, and set a calendar for implementation."[11]

In December, the Council of the European Union endorsed a set of conclusions on the Israeli–Palestinian conflict which forms the basis of present EU policy.[12] It reasserted the objective of a two-state solution, and stressed that the union "will not recognise any changes to the pre-1967 borders including with regard to Jerusalem, other than those agreed by the parties." It recalled that the EU "has never recognised the annexation of East Jerusalem" and that the State of Palestine must have its capital in Jerusalem.[13]

A year later, in December 2010, the Council reiterated these conclusions and announced its readiness, when appropriate, to recognise a Palestinian state, but encouraged a return to negotiations.[14] Eight of its 27 member states have recognised the State of Palestine.

In 2011, the Palestinian government called on the EU to recognise the State of Palestine in a United Nations resolution scheduled for 20 September. EU member states grew divided over the issue. Some, including Spain, France and the United Kingdom, stating that they might recognise if talks did not progress, while others, including Germany and Italy, refused. Catherine Ashton said that the EU position would depend on the wording of the proposal.[15] At the end of August, Israel's defence minister Ehud Barak told Ashton that Israel was seeking to influence the wording: "It is very important that all the players come up with a text that will emphasise the quick return to negotiations, without an effort to impose pre-conditions on the sides."[16]

Well, that's an interesting one... Hissyspit Oct 2012 #1
To say the least MissHoneychurch Oct 2012 #2
I am an EU skeptic, but.. Lars77 Oct 2012 #5
All the great powers Sgent Oct 2012 #26
I suspect the US and Russia occupying the whole of the continent 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #33
Certainly it is not justifiable Kindly Refrain Oct 2012 #13
Individual member states maintain their own standing military, independent of the EU. Divernan Oct 2012 #15
Seems reasonable to me Sherman A1 Oct 2012 #3
It'll piss off the far right in Europe, which is a Good Thing (nt) muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #4
Not forgetting.... T_i_B Oct 2012 #7
It will also piss off the far- (and not so far) right in the US who continually disparage the EU pampango Oct 2012 #9
Every Nobel pisses off the right. It's like it's part of the job description by now. (nt) Posteritatis Oct 2012 #30
I guess since we haven't had another World War started by Germany fasttense Oct 2012 #6
The EU did that??? former9thward Oct 2012 #25
We haven't had a world war since the invention of the atomic bomb 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #34
Everyone in Europe adding ‘Nobel Prize Winner’ to their CV dipsydoodle Oct 2012 #8
on par with kissenger and obama getting it SESKATOW Oct 2012 #10
The EU is the single largest donor of foreign aid to Palestinians. Divernan Oct 2012 #14
how does that compare to trade with Israel?? SESKATOW Oct 2012 #16
Your extreme view is woefully uninformed as to the current state of negotiations. Divernan Oct 2012 #19
Divernan- you completely ignored the points I was making. SESKATOW Oct 2012 #43
You're not a fan of Obama, then? muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #21
Muriel - he aint no progressive and he aint no dove. SESKATOW Oct 2012 #42
EU's financial sector (Eurozone crisis) originated in US's unregulated banking practises Divernan Oct 2012 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Oct 2012 #12
And the award goes to: jsr Oct 2012 #17
The EU is a political project that the people never voted for. Democratopia Oct 2012 #18
1975: UK embraces Europe in referendum. Divernan Oct 2012 #22
Most countries have had referenda in favour of joining, since 1973 muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #23
Good link - thanks Divernan Oct 2012 #29
Completely Wrong Democratopia Oct 2012 #36
No, I was quite correct, even if you take the strict names muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #38
I am sorry, but you are completely wrong. Democratopia Oct 2012 #44
Is this some new definition of 'wrong' you're using? muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #45
a keiser classic SESKATOW Oct 2012 #48
Thanks. On behalf of the Nobel Committee, I shall sacrifice myself as a EU citizen WilmywoodNCparalegal Oct 2012 #20
Why does anyone care what this committee has to say any more? JackRiddler Oct 2012 #24
well, well! I'm heading out to Brussels on Sunday. CTyankee Oct 2012 #27
Have fun! In your honor, I will watch the noirish "In Bruges" again. Divernan Oct 2012 #31
How nice! We will be going to Bruges, actually. And Ghent and Antwerp. CTyankee Oct 2012 #32
Also check out Martin McDonagh's latest film, Seven Psychopaths Divernan Oct 2012 #39
Many, many thanks Divernan! You are a treasure! CTyankee Oct 2012 #41
MissHoneychurch Diclotican Oct 2012 #28
You know MissHoneychurch Oct 2012 #35
MissHoneychurch Diclotican Oct 2012 #37
Reactions from the European far-right: Marine Le Pen, Geert Wilders, Nigel Farage, etc. pampango Oct 2012 #40
Now the EU stands along side peacemakers like Kissinger and Arafat. Old Union Guy Oct 2012 #46
An admirable choice indeed. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #47
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