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realityphantom

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16. I'm certain I will be branded a trouble maker but...
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 05:23 AM
Jan 2021

Last edited Thu Jan 14, 2021, 05:58 AM - Edit history (1)

My biggest problem with the Gaurdian's article and most takes on digital platforms is that no one seems to make a differentiation between services and platforms.

Zello is not a platform, you cannot publicly post content to be seen by the service's users at mass. Zello is a messenger. Watkins was a member of a Radiogroup made up of people who were participating in conversation about the Capital operation. However despicable or moronic their actions, the Zello messenger and it's company deserves no backlash. It would be like trying to go after phone carriers for allowing them to text about they're behavior via SMS

Trying to normalize the concept of moderation in messaging services makes us no better than China and how they actively change people's messages in private conversations in WeChat to fit a narrative.

This group was stupid enough to use Zello, an unecrypted voice messager that just so happened to have some of it's messages downloaded and leaked. This should be something that concerned people look for when trying to make sense of senseless events such as the DC operation. Pushing on companies like Zello will either see us with public messaging options that have spying built in or will cause them to remove themselves from our market all together. Either scenario will cause the domestic terrorists to adapt and become adept in other communications that are harder to detect, record and leak.

(Speaking on all of this as an individual with decades of communications experience)

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Paintballs? Really? C_U_L8R Jan 2021 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2021 #3
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put her on the barbtries Jan 2021 #2
I think they should hold off on arrests until President Biden is active. C Moon Jan 2021 #4
i don't. barbtries Jan 2021 #12
so if they're using quotes that means they have recording, correct? otherwise it is not msongs Jan 2021 #6
Is this the same woman? from 2013 Miigwech Jan 2021 #7
No, different Jessica Watkins. Denzil_DC Jan 2021 #11
could be. barbtries Jan 2021 #13
Paintballs - I'd heard there was 'red stuff' on some of the Capitol's statuary... was that it? Talitha Jan 2021 #8
So, shutting down the cell towers in the area Miguelito Loveless Jan 2021 #9
"everything we trained for". There is a lot of seditious conspiracy up and down. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #10
Some of the House reps have said some christx30 Jan 2021 #15
She is "actually" orangecrush Jan 2021 #14
I'm certain I will be branded a trouble maker but... realityphantom Jan 2021 #16
Excellent information. Thanks. Lonestarblue Jan 2021 #17
If the survival orangecrush Jan 2021 #18
At the very least. marble falls Jan 2021 #25
Zello has terms of service which it has struggled to enforce. Denzil_DC Jan 2021 #19
A Radio group.. realityphantom Jan 2021 #21
"A Radio group.. Is hardly an indication of organization." Denzil_DC Jan 2021 #22
Post removed Post removed Jan 2021 #23
Thanks for putting that so clearly. marble falls Jan 2021 #26
Oh, I suspect a number of us might have done a better job if they'd been the ones replied to. Denzil_DC Jan 2021 #27
I think he's an OG Ham Radio man. I think he's in his 60-70's a Truman Democrat ... marble falls Jan 2021 #28
Possibly. Denzil_DC Jan 2021 #29
And I bet NSA is all over it. marble falls Jan 2021 #30
I'm pretty old school myself. Denzil_DC Jan 2021 #31
I haven't assumed privacy since the sixties. I do not fly since I started winning every ... marble falls Jan 2021 #33
An afterthought: Denzil_DC Jan 2021 #32
The whole thing has a certain "Spy vs Spy" aspect to it. marble falls Jan 2021 #34
Good information. But Zello still holds at least some responsibility. marble falls Jan 2021 #24
"This is everything...we trained for." Wow! Nitram Jan 2021 #20
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