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LiberalLovinLug

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77. You are bickering over the name.
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 12:49 AM
Feb 2021

I don't give a hoot about the name. It doesn't have to be called Medicare-For-All. But that is a popular tag. Democrats have a hard enough time finding good slogans. And they finally have one that polls well, But whatever. Call it what you want.

According to that Pew research, 87% of Democrats want either single full national service (54%) or combined with private (33%). That is the main point.

I don't care if they call it The Department of Silly Walks. But Democrats need to own it. Stop with the mixed messaging. Don't have to say it will happen over night. But just state in one voice, from moderates to muckrakers, that the end goal is a functioning guaranteed universally accessible medical system for all with those rights guaranteed by law, and enforced and administered by the federal government, even if States can implement it how they see fit, they must abide by federal guidelines.

And they win with this by hammering home all the benefits, that it will cost half as much, while creating a security that Americans have never felt before, like other countries have for a long time already. Its win win if they go all in. There's a slogan for ya!

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That's just stupid. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2021 #1
Our options in WV are someone who votes Dem 50% of the time... TwilightZone Feb 2021 #4
Yup. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2021 #13
So Even Though Progressive Policies are strongly favored SamsDrink Feb 2021 #54
WVA is not exactly a hotbed of progressive thought. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2021 #60
No one said they should shut up treestar Feb 2021 #65
You ain't from around here, iz ya? Boomer Feb 2021 #68
That is pretty spot on. riversedge Feb 2021 #33
Short, sweet and 100% correct. paleotn Feb 2021 #36
Agreed. Losing Manchin would mean an extreme right-wing Republican in that seat. SharonAnn Feb 2021 #15
Dumbest thing ever, need to be a big tent ouija Feb 2021 #20
+1 K&R. Can't claim we are the party of unity & inclusion and then say we don't like that onetexan Feb 2021 #56
Good luck obnoxiousdrunk Feb 2021 #2
Shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the politics of both states. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #3
The thing that bugs me is there are areas where they might field a Democrat to take a Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #70
Progressive group. rso Feb 2021 #5
The "Progressive" Wing Has Never Won a Race Not in a Deep Blue District- Any Dem Can Win Those Indykatie Feb 2021 #6
Dangerous game jorgevlorgan Feb 2021 #7
Right, because losing our slim majority will teach them a lesson IronLionZion Feb 2021 #8
Why don't they go after REPUBLICANS instead? This is a very myopic and foolish game. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #9
Nothing wrong with primarying them. Jay25 Feb 2021 #10
Lord. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #12
Yeah, there IS something wrong with primarying them. Candidates who are primaried pnwmom Feb 2021 #14
It also depletes the incumbent's finances, making it more difficult to campaign in the fall. George II Feb 2021 #59
This! ProfessorGAC Feb 2021 #72
Yes, thank you. n/t pnwmom Feb 2021 #74
Yes, there is. Why don't they expend a little energy and money on GOPers The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2021 #17
What other Democrat can possibly win in W Va???? groundloop Feb 2021 #28
Recipe for disaster Boomer Feb 2021 #69
But if they get lucky and wind up getting a weaker Democrat as the nominee.... George II Feb 2021 #35
Sure, nothing wrong with having the incumbent Democrat mcar Feb 2021 #53
They won't treestar Feb 2021 #66
2024? Aren't they getting ahead of themselves? brush Feb 2021 #11
You're absolutely right... appmanga Feb 2021 #16
Fool's Errand! MineralMan Feb 2021 #18
Manchin is as progressive as West Virginia gets. BlueTsunami2018 Feb 2021 #19
Newsweak GeorgeGist Feb 2021 #21
Counterproductive, but the anger at conservative Dems assisting McConnell Roisin Ni Fiachra Feb 2021 #22
Lets just give up. Let Republicans have their abettors. Sounds like a plan. LiberalLovinLug Feb 2021 #23
I Agree With This mezame Feb 2021 #25
yup +1000 LiberalLovinLug Feb 2021 #27
It's a winner My Pet Orangutan Feb 2021 #31
Yup. LiberalLovinLug Feb 2021 #34
"If leadership keeps going on the offensive against their own candidates...", so what do you want... George II Feb 2021 #37
So 54% is not a majority? LiberalLovinLug Feb 2021 #49
Yes it is, and note that they say "a single national government program", not any one.... George II Feb 2021 #57
You are bickering over the name. LiberalLovinLug Feb 2021 #77
No I'm not. At the time of that poll there were several different plans that people were aware of... George II Feb 2021 #79
No the ACA is not adequate. We agree to disagree then LiberalLovinLug Feb 2021 #81
Meaningless; try doing it state by state treestar Feb 2021 #67
Democrats literally ran a Justice Democrat who supported M4A in the 2020 WV senate race. Drunken Irishman Feb 2021 #47
And THERE is your answer! One wonders the motivation of a group that primaries a Democratic.... George II Feb 2021 #61
This wasn't a swing state was it? LiberalLovinLug Feb 2021 #76
WV is specifically mentioned in the OP you're replying to. Drunken Irishman Feb 2021 #78
Who are you calling republican "moles", Manchin and Sinema? George II Feb 2021 #38
WV literally did what you are advocating for in the 2020 senate race. Drunken Irishman Feb 2021 #46
Same thing happened here in Texas. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #63
You clearly have no understanding of how or why Sinema won in Arizona. If we ran an AOC-like LongtimeAZDem Feb 2021 #51
The only thing we'd be giving up on is two seats in the Senate. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #62
Yeah wryter2000 Feb 2021 #24
Lovely. Whoever thinks an AOC-like progressive has a chance... SKKY Feb 2021 #26
Justice Democrats' endorsees have NEVER won a general election (indeed very few primaries).... George II Feb 2021 #29
Really bad move. They need to do better homework. Lonestarblue Feb 2021 #30
Are these stupid people working for the Qeblicans? WVreaper Feb 2021 #32
Sounds like folks who have no concept of WV or AZ. paleotn Feb 2021 #39
+1 LongtimeAZDem Feb 2021 #43
This is bad, VP Harris just blindsided both of them by giving interviews in their home states. Lasher Feb 2021 #40
Those interviews have been blown way out of proportion. Harris didn't go to either state.... George II Feb 2021 #41
They were interviews with local news outlets. Lasher Feb 2021 #44
Did you notice that Manchin voted to move the Biden plan forward in the Senate? mcar Feb 2021 #55
None of that means Manchin wasn't blindsided by the Harris interview Lasher Feb 2021 #58
And Arizona will go back to the GOP :( LongtimeAZDem Feb 2021 #42
They need to reconsider their targets. marble falls Feb 2021 #45
WV Dems nominated a Justice Democrat in 2020 to run against Shelley Moore Capito. She lost 70-27. Drunken Irishman Feb 2021 #48
Let the system work. I was designed exactly for this. nt Gore1FL Feb 2021 #50
Here's a tip "progressive group" mcar Feb 2021 #52
A better stratagy would be to just get more Democrats elected Salviati Feb 2021 #64
Makes sense - can't have that! TwilightZone Feb 2021 #75
That is completely insane!!! This is WV for God's sake! grobertj Feb 2021 #71
Operating outside of one's "Circle of Concern" is terrible waste of resources. oasis Feb 2021 #73
Saikat Chakrabarti is a Grifting Scumbag . He is a wall street whore and Silicon Valley whore JI7 Feb 2021 #80
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