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35. Energy consumers

Tue Feb 16, 2021, 12:23 PM

Feb 2021

don't have a choice. IMHO, It's not really a free market when folks are forced to choose between freezing to death or paying the utility bill. Utilities are necessary for survival, and should be owned and operated by the public/consumers.

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Electricity retailer Griddy's unusual plea to Texas customers: Leave now before you get a big bill [View all] UpInArms Feb 2021 OP

So apparently Texas doesn't regulate utilities? What other state allows for "spot" increases? hlthe2b Feb 2021 #1

The Wild West UpInArms Feb 2021 #3

Thank the Goddess I live in Colorado. Shit happens, surely, but at least they try to regulate this hlthe2b Feb 2021 #5

i remember it quite well thank you . AllaN01Bear Feb 2021 #13

Laughing their asses off central scrutinizer Feb 2021 #15

Skilling made a joke about it UpInArms Feb 2021 #16

It was soooo tragic when Skilling dropped DEAD......NOT! Bengus81 Feb 2021 #20

Bengus81.... Upthevibe Feb 2021 #52

+1 dalton99a Feb 2021 #38

Nice find! Gregory Peccary Feb 2021 #44

Those guys are despicable UpInArms Feb 2021 #48

I remember that. BigmanPigman Feb 2021 #33

Unregulated Markets Are Cheaper Overall modrepub Feb 2021 #6

Related:Natural gas prices soar amid freezing U.S. temperatures, while oil hovers at Jan. 2020 highs UpInArms Feb 2021 #7

Maybe in some settings, but a deregulated market equates to NO Consumer Protection hlthe2b Feb 2021 #8

OK So Your Alternative Is To Have A Public Utility Board modrepub Feb 2021 #22

It's worked since FDR's time in the majority of the states.Your anti-regulatory stance is what will hlthe2b Feb 2021 #28

Water Issues Are Different In The West modrepub Feb 2021 #37

No water issues, yet. There will be in future--even in some areas of the NE, SE (which had drougnt hlthe2b Feb 2021 #41

Let's Say I Have a Healthy Mistrust of People In General modrepub Feb 2021 #51

Oversight of Government is every bit as important. A well educated & engaged electorate is answer hlthe2b Feb 2021 #53

You Should Never Put Someone In Charge of Government modrepub Feb 2021 #63

Re: "You Should Never Put Someone In Charge of Government who is convinced that hlthe2b Feb 2021 #64

Astroturf modrepub Feb 2021 #66

My solution is turn the utilities over to the state Miguelito Loveless Feb 2021 #40

Public power and consumer-owned co-ops SCantiGOP Feb 2021 #67

Energy consumers crud Feb 2021 #35

Texas separates Sgent Feb 2021 #61

Way back in FDR times, gab13by13 Feb 2021 #10

And OldBaldy1701E Feb 2021 #11

This Is A Case Of "Be Careful What You Wish For. You Might Get It." COL Mustard Feb 2021 #27

Texas Is The New California (Enron)? modrepub Feb 2021 #2

That what it looks like to me UpInArms Feb 2021 #4

now because of them we have the cal independant system operator AllaN01Bear Feb 2021 #14

Enron immediately came to mind for me too mdbl Feb 2021 #9

taking advantage of an emergency, GOUGING.. AllaN01Bear Feb 2021 #12

Hopefully, the CTFC will get involved UpInArms Feb 2021 #17

Ah yes... Maxheader Feb 2021 #18

No regs on utility's RAPING their customers in Texas?? Don't want non of that Librul stuff down har! Bengus81 Feb 2021 #19

Freedom isn't free IronLionZion Feb 2021 #21

Private companies doing what they do. Maximize profits by maximum risk Raven123 Feb 2021 #23

Seems like no risk at all crud Feb 2021 #31

Once again, Mr. Evil Feb 2021 #24

Maybe Texas can buy Peletons so its residents can pedal up Historic NY Feb 2021 #25

Ya! BUT they are FREE from government regulation them there librules want to impose on our freedoms. usaf-vet Feb 2021 #26

That's ridiculous. They will definitely not get help from their republican leaders. Jay25 Feb 2021 #29

Images of California and Enron sdfernando Feb 2021 #30

Freedom... dlk Feb 2021 #32

Well, thank god they don't have those evil socialist public utilities tinrobot Feb 2021 #34

Didn't this happen in California when Schwarzenegger was governor? FakeNoose Feb 2021 #36

It happened under Gray Davis, which is a reason why he was recalledand Schwarzenegger elected: Liberty Belle Feb 2021 #43

OK thanks for the reminder FakeNoose Feb 2021 #62

Ah, the ol' Texas Sizzle! Screwing customers as much as one can do legally. Can't beat it, SWBTATTReg Feb 2021 #39

Two weeks ago... Mawspam2 Feb 2021 #42

Before the utility company became profitization centers ... aggiesal Feb 2021 #45

It has always been about UpInArms Feb 2021 #46

I say Privatizing the profits and Socializing the debt. ... aggiesal Feb 2021 #47

Here, the govt. at the time did what today would be unthinkable. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #54

Thanks for the info ... aggiesal Feb 2021 #55

We typically have electric surplus and often sell it to CA's spot markets. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #49

OK, looking up the price before posting would probably have been wise. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #50

That is awful, Bob UpInArms Feb 2021 #58

To my mind, it is. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #60

Isn't privatization great? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2021 #56

surprise! TX loaded with Griddyots🤨 bringthePaine Feb 2021 #57

Glad to be in El Paso. Scruffy1 Feb 2021 #59

Market capitalism is like fire.... paleotn Feb 2021 #65