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6. As I understand the math

Wed Mar 3, 2021, 12:22 PM

Mar 2021

Someone will be able to say, I got $600 from Trump, and nothing from Biden. He promised in Georgia I would get $2,000 all up. He broke his promise because the Democrats think I'm rich.

Edit - Scrub that. The upper limit is 80K, so someone who got $600, would get something.

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Biden limits eligibility for stimulus payments under pressure from moderate Senate Democrats [View all] BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 OP

Oh boy..... jimfields33 Mar 2021 #1

Looks like it's 80K for single and 160K for couples EarlG Mar 2021 #3

Thanks! That's not bad. jimfields33 Mar 2021 #8

Right. That's actually higher than in the past, which was $75/$150. To be honest I wish.... George II Mar 2021 #11

No it isn't dsc Mar 2021 #12

Why would Joe Biden do this? A: Because Manchin was set to sink the Bill. speak easy Mar 2021 #2

I recall this idea being floated while the bill was still being drafted in the House BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #4

As I understand the math speak easy Mar 2021 #6

I don't remember what the upper limit was the last go around BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #15

Exactly. President Biden is doing everything he can in a country where nearly half the voters artemisia1 Mar 2021 #72

And also, as much as it feels good to blame Manchin, AleksS Mar 2021 #75

Because Manchin was set to sink the Bill. Is he being rewarded in some way? Trueblue1968 Mar 2021 #77

The problem is that - OhZone Mar 2021 #5

And if based on previous year's tax return, circumstances could change dramatically MANative Mar 2021 #7

yep...my income will be down probably 80% this year... dhill926 Mar 2021 #10

that problem delays the money it doesn't cause you not to get the money dsc Mar 2021 #13

One size does not fit all WA-03 Democrat Mar 2021 #73

I'm afraid I can't see how 160K would make you lower middle class any place. Martin68 Mar 2021 #83

The Question Is What Will The Money Be Spent on Instead? TomCADem Mar 2021 #9

I just added the update to the OP and this was mentioned -- BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #18

Great minds think alike! TomCADem Mar 2021 #24

Just having extended unemployment benefits alone without a one time payment... llmart Mar 2021 #33

Pass the fucking bill, gab13by13 Mar 2021 #14

And the harder it gets to get the public to comply with public health measures. Yavin4 Mar 2021 #54

I am okay with this nevergiveup Mar 2021 #16

How many people will have gotten checks under Trump? ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2021 #17

Zero under Trump, gab13by13 Mar 2021 #19

Big mistake. A lot of people have seen their incomes drop. Autumn Mar 2021 #20

If the whole point is to stimulate the economy, rolypolychloe Mar 2021 #21

Then donate your unneeded check to a local food bank. That will benefit the local economy. niyad Mar 2021 #84

I like my suggestion better rolypolychloe Mar 2021 #85

So giving money to the food bank, which will use it to buy groceries and goods, is NOT niyad Mar 2021 #86

Apparently not rolypolychloe Mar 2021 #87

Pretty sure that the bill is not just about businesses. And however you dress it up, your plan is niyad Mar 2021 #88

This bill is a big fucking deal, gab13by13 Mar 2021 #22

+++. What I think we are going to see is republicans throw a whole slew of draconian JohnSJ Mar 2021 #37

Please ETLI5 obamanut2012 Mar 2021 #23

I think anyone (singles) making $75,000 or less will be fine for the full amount BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #26

I read it that way, too, but other folks here are saying the phase out starts at 50K obamanut2012 Mar 2021 #27

There may be various versions of that provision being floated around BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #28

Right obamanut2012 Mar 2021 #29

If she has dependents they should be eligible too ($1,400 per dependent) BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #30

I know her, and she won't spend that on herself obamanut2012 Mar 2021 #34

That is exactly right JohnSJ Mar 2021 #38

This will slow the implementation of the payout by weeks probably because they will need to check yaesu Mar 2021 #25

Moderates? There's that messaging again that keeps the country in the same rut. jalan48 Mar 2021 #31

I.e., "Democratic Senators elected in red states". BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #32

Hard to believe the citizens of red states don't want a larger stimulus check. My guess is that jalan48 Mar 2021 #36

As long as we have no campaign finance reform BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #42

I agree. jalan48 Mar 2021 #43

Sinema lives in the same state as Mark Kelly wryter2000 Mar 2021 #58

Yes BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #62

THANK YOU BradAllison Mar 2021 #63

I think it's more he's keeping his mouth shut since he's up for reelection in 22 AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2021 #68

When will the Senate vote on the bill? Polybius Mar 2021 #35

My bet is within a couple of weeks, because I suspect republicans will throw a whole slew JohnSJ Mar 2021 #39

Can't be a couple weeks because the UE will expire by then. BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #41

I know, but if the republicans throw out tons of amendments that each need to be voted on, JohnSJ Mar 2021 #47

They call it a "vote-a-rama" (a Senate thing) BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #48

I hope you are right, but there is no doubt the republicans in the Senate are going to do everything JohnSJ Mar 2021 #50

They can try BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #51

yes JohnSJ Mar 2021 #52

Here's a good little video on the process BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #56

An excellent description. Thanks for this JohnSJ Mar 2021 #67

I can envision an ad DENVERPOPS Mar 2021 #70

I agree JohnSJ Mar 2021 #71

IIRC the UE benefits expire March 14 BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #40

Tradeoff $100 unemployment against families between $160K and $200k -- seems OK to me JT45242 Mar 2021 #44

Stupidity. The public supports the bill by a long shot. Promises have been made that will not be KPN Mar 2021 #45

This has nothing to do with Emmanuel. This is all on Manchin and a couple of so-called moderate JohnSJ Mar 2021 #49

It has to do with Senate Dems scaling back on promises made rather than digging in and having KPN Mar 2021 #89

When you have a one vote tie breaker lead, and a few Democrats who refuse to budge, there JohnSJ Mar 2021 #90

You misunderstand me. I'm tired of hearing for 45 straight years why we can't do KPN Mar 2021 #91

I am not holding my breath Bird Lady Mar 2021 #46

So, it raises the limit for individuals? wryter2000 Mar 2021 #53

It just phases the $1400 amount down to $0 for income BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #59

I am getting frustrated orangecrush Mar 2021 #55

Suddenly Joe Manchin rules the party peoli Mar 2021 #57

In this case, it's no longer just him BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #64

I think this is a luxury that presented itself and they are wise to take it bucolic_frolic Mar 2021 #60

Unfuckingreal BradAllison Mar 2021 #61

Just get it passed Marthe48 Mar 2021 #65

Not enough votes unless changes are made BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #66

Sucks that some workers who got money under Trump won't get it under Biden. SunSeeker Mar 2021 #69

I won't get a stimulus check, yet again. SKKY Mar 2021 #74

Ok, now let's pass this thing and give people the help they need. Joinfortmill Mar 2021 #76

It makes such a difference to some radical noodle Mar 2021 #78

At the end of the day people who got money under Trump won't get it under Biden inwiththenew Mar 2021 #79

12 million adults and five million children obamanut2012 Mar 2021 #81

And many who didn't get it under Trump will get it under Biden Kaleva Mar 2021 #92

If We Worked Harder To Get Dems Elected To Senate We Wouldn't Have To Help Manchin Impress Folks DanieRains Mar 2021 #80

I think this is a good idea. Get the money to people who really need it. Not everyone is in dire Martin68 Mar 2021 #82