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51. By who? Who has the capability, independence and credibility to do it?

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 09:32 AM

Oct 2012

as for your questions:

1. WTC 7 collapsed after suffering massive structural damage when parts of the WTC fell on it and burning for hours.

2. There were only 14 aircraft at seven sites in all of America prepared for instant launch for intercept duties. Four aircraft on the east coast were launched but because no one knew exactly where the airliners were (they had turned off their transponders) they could not intercept in time.

3. There are no air defense systems at the Pentagon - it sits in the flight path of a major airport and hundreds of planes flight very close to it every day. Defensive missile systems that can shoot down airliners are big - you can't hide them.

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It's about time DollarBillHines Oct 2012 #1

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Really? The Doctor. Oct 2012 #109

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Repeat a lie often enough, eh? The Doctor. Oct 2012 #120

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By who? Who has the capability, independence and credibility to do it? hack89 Oct 2012 #51

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