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71. RT is more far more reputable than CNN, Fox and most of our Corporate run 'news' organizations

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 09:38 AM

Oct 2012

here. I have not yet seen a false news story reported on RT. Nor have I seen them use morons like Ann Coulter as 'political experts' as our MSM has done. Nor seen them turn to Glenn Beck as a person worthy of handing a political talk to as CNN has. Or treat Andrew Breitbart or James O'Keefe as if they were trustworthy individuals as our Corporate media has.

RT is definitely NOT a 'Russian government propaganda site' and there are only two reasons why someone would make such a ridiculous statement. I'm assuming, since that statement is SO ridiculous, that you have never watched them.

We have a DU member here who has appeared on RT's excellent show Crosstalk. I have asked him if he has ever been influenced by anyone as to what he could say or instructed by anyone not to talk about any subject. He has stated that he has said whatever he wanted to say with no influence from anyone whenever he appeared on RT.

I wish we could say the same for our own Corporate controlled media.

If this story turned out to be false, RT will make a correction. I don't doubt the story. Members of the Green Party, authors, political activists, all have ended up on that vile list. Nothing surprises people anymore.

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NDAA Critic Stranded In Hawaii After Turning Up On No-fly List [View all] DeSwiss Oct 2012 OP

That picture is false advertising. He was left in Paradise, not flown to Purgatory. freshwest Oct 2012 #1

If you don't want to be in ''paradise''..... DeSwiss Oct 2012 #7

Being inconvenienced is neither purgatory nor hell. Just sayin' freshwest Oct 2012 #26

Wow. Just... wow. Being stranded thousands of miles from home and family is "inconvenienced"? PavePusher Oct 2012 #194

'Fuck. That. Vile. Noise.' that I said that you didn't like. Did you read further down the thread? freshwest Oct 2012 #198

Shame on you. Apologizing for a police state. JackRiddler Oct 2012 #74

It was a military flight. What rights did he have to fly a military flight after he lost his msanthrope Oct 2012 #89

How about armed Birther Prepper nutbags? Just like everyone else, right? freshwest Oct 2012 #115

The same right any military spouse has. And why did he lose his clearances? sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #121

See post 125. nt msanthrope Oct 2012 #128

My post was not apology, you owe me one, but I won't hold my breath. Read the sign in the OP. freshwest Oct 2012 #114

He was on a military flight, no less. The military does not have to fly an asshole who msanthrope Oct 2012 #85

His wife is in the military. So you want him punished by depriving him of privileges all military sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #124

I am the "asshole's" wife... ekb Oct 2012 #156

If you are that asshole's wife, then I can only congratulate you, Lieutenant, on your msanthrope Oct 2012 #158

1 Post? brooklynite Oct 2012 #163

This dude is a 9/11 truther and Tea Party activist in Mississippi. Far-rightwing sources struggle4progress Oct 2012 #2

And what do his political views have to do with this? Is it a crime now to have political views sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #9

I absolutely support putting people on the No-Fly based on their beliefs. I'd have started with the msanthrope Oct 2012 #65

Wow ... Nihil Oct 2012 #69

I have no doubt Luis Carriles claims to be a Christian. But I'd gladly add msanthrope Oct 2012 #81

I'd say I'm glad you're not in a position of power ... Nihil Oct 2012 #93

Tell me, please, why a military flight must carry a person who has lost his msanthrope Oct 2012 #94

Read my first post on this thread and your post to which it applied. Nihil Oct 2012 #155

Well, yes, you are defending this man. It's not my fault you didn't avail yourself msanthrope Oct 2012 #157

If you knew how to read, you wouldn't have written that reply. Nihil Oct 2012 #202

Are you comparing terrorist suspects to Americans who belong to the Republican Party or the sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #70

No, I'm comparing terrorists to a kook no military flight should have to countenance. msanthrope Oct 2012 #82

He's a kook ... sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #96

Speech is protected. Military flights subsidized by the taxpayers are not. nt msanthrope Oct 2012 #104

And when critics of Bush landed on the No Fly List you no doubt fully supported sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #108

Explain to me how this dude is owed a tax-payer subsidized military flight? Because he msanthrope Oct 2012 #113

That did not address my question. Never mind 'this dude'. You stated that sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #118

see post 125. nt msanthrope Oct 2012 #126

I saw it, it doesn't answer the question. sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #132

Military flights for dependents are not regulated by political beliefs, nor should they be... PavePusher Oct 2012 #195

Mere thoughts should indeed, prevent and deny people from many things, including flight LanternWaste Oct 2012 #83

This was a military flight. If you depict the CIC burning the Constiution, host a website calling msanthrope Oct 2012 #91

You appear to be adding additional qualifiers to your original premise of mere thought. LanternWaste Oct 2012 #100

LA--how do we know thoughts? Through speech and action. I'm not a mind reader. But if msanthrope Oct 2012 #105

Then you are no different from Joe McCarthy n/t markpkessinger Oct 2012 #197

You don't read carefully or well. Let me repeat what I said: "I'll want a much better source struggle4progress Oct 2012 #67

RT is more far more reputable than CNN, Fox and most of our Corporate run 'news' organizations sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #71

Allow me to explain to you just how far you've wandered into the land of fruitcakes and mixed nuts struggle4progress Oct 2012 #73

Your nasty persoal attacks mean nothing to me, so I will not alert on them but rather let them sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #80

Get this--Wade Hicks was on a military flight--imagine that!!! The parasite is wondering msanthrope Oct 2012 #86

And?? Apparently his wife is in the military. I will ask again. Since when did political speech sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #99

You can say what you wish. But speech is not without consequences. nt msanthrope Oct 2012 #102

Was this your position for Progressives sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #109

Explain to me how a taxpayer subsidized military flight is protected under the Constitution? nt msanthrope Oct 2012 #112

I asked you a question first. I will answer yours when you answer mine. sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #117

Your question is flawed because you conflate rights with privileges. Further, msanthrope Oct 2012 #125

My question is pretty straightforward. If the Government punishes someone for sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #131

No--your question is flawed. You are conflating a right with a privilege. Mr. Hicks retains his msanthrope Oct 2012 #134

Amazing. Here let me try to make it as simple as possible. sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #137

Are you asserting that a taxpayer subsidized military flight is a right? Or a privilege? nt msanthrope Oct 2012 #139

Should a person be punished by the military by removing their PRIVILEGES because of their sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #141

Okay--so this is a privilege, right? Do you have an actual case of someone from the Bush era, or is msanthrope Oct 2012 #143

Is flying on commercial airlines a right or a privilege? sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #162

Travel is a right; flying on commercial airlines is a privilege subject to rules. msanthrope Oct 2012 #168

You haven't answered a single one of my very simple questions so far. sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #170

Um--just answered the question you posted in 162. Apparently you do not like that answer and are on msanthrope Oct 2012 #173

And once again, you do not answer the question. sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #183

Sabrina, I think you got Parlocked. msanthrope Oct 2012 #184

What I didn't get was an answer to a simple question even though I very patiently tried for more sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #188

taken to its logical conclusion Dokkie Oct 2012 #193

You say tax payers provided flight Dokkie Oct 2012 #191

The military prohibits expressions of disrespect for the CiC jberryhill Oct 2012 #201

Incredible, isn't it? JackRiddler Oct 2012 #76

Yes, incredible the reaction to any kind of free press in this country. I remember the hatred sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #97

No, but it's intuitive to know he's a fucking loon and believes in crazy shit.. snooper2 Oct 2012 #120

I agree with you. alarimer Oct 2012 #133

Hang the heretic! JackRiddler Oct 2012 #75

That's not what I've said: I've said I don't trust him and don't believe his story struggle4progress Oct 2012 #129

Douglas Hagmann BTW is another rightwinger, whose views are promoted by Alex Jones struggle4progress Oct 2012 #3

indeed... loop204 Oct 2012 #5

No, it's not. RT is one of the best Progressive news organizations sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #10

That's not true. dipsydoodle Oct 2012 #63

Thank you for posting actual facts. sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #111

And again, what does any of that have to do with an American Citizen being put on Bush's sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #15

Listen carefully: I think his tale might be untrue. Let me say that a few more ways: struggle4progress Oct 2012 #66

RT in NOT a credible news source loop204 Oct 2012 #4

RT is one of the MOST credible news sources on TV. Unless you don't like sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #11

Thanks for the welcome... loop204 Oct 2012 #16

RT often posts news, they ARE based in DC btw, before other news sources get them I've noticed. sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #24

It has an anti-American bias, being a tool of Vladimir Putin. geek tragedy Oct 2012 #146

So, Teabag wingnut doesn't get welfare flight overseas, Putin's mouthpiece whines, geek tragedy Oct 2012 #147

No it does not have an anti-American bias. But nice try. It reports news and provides opportunity sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #171

It has some blatantly propaganda programs, but it also has some others like Thom Hartmann. JDPriestly Oct 2012 #17

But... loop204 Oct 2012 #27

''.... but also to coverage that makes the United States look bad.'' DeSwiss Oct 2012 #41

Agreed... loop204 Oct 2012 #45

So in your opinion reporting news is making heroes out of people? sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #52

I tend to agree that RT's news coverage is for dupes in many cases, but then JDPriestly Oct 2012 #122

Alex Jones likes Putin. For my own reasons, I do, too. Thom Hartmann is a serious person, IMO. freshwest Oct 2012 #35

Thank you. I will... :) n/t loop204 Oct 2012 #46

We used to have posters that linked to WSWS, but with enough mockery, they switched to RT. msanthrope Oct 2012 #64

FOX, CNN, NBC are more your cup of tea. JackRiddler Oct 2012 #77

Actually, Canada Free Press had the professionalism to report that Hicks was on a military flight. msanthrope Oct 2012 #88

I too am on the FAA No Fly list and have been since December 2001. Early on they over-reacted Dustlawyer Oct 2012 #6

This is the kind of shit that makes me believe the terrorists won Major Nikon Oct 2012 #8

Not just the terrorists, take a look at this (unrelated, but you'll see what I mean): Poll_Blind Oct 2012 #13

I thought this Bush era, McCarthyite list had been dealt with. This was one of the abominations sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #18

I suspect that person wound up on the list for the same reason Major Nikon Oct 2012 #37

Not surprising at all that he wound up on the list. Considering all the others who ended up on it. sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #47

Sad to see DU'ers get duped by Russia Today. Total nonsense and bunkum. Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #12

Are you talking about Thom Hartmann? Or Max Keiser? JDPriestly Oct 2012 #19

Thom Hartmann is an entertainer. Not journalism. boppers Oct 2012 #21

I think you're wrong about Hartmann. But the rest of RT is BS. JMHO. freshwest Oct 2012 #39

RT, like much modern media, is struggling to survive. boppers Oct 2012 #150

Name your media sources, then. And your respected journalists. Help us out here. freshwest Oct 2012 #151

Okay... boppers Oct 2012 #152

That's not true, on the contrary it has been hugely successful. Here are the facts about RT: sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #164

They're incredibly succesful. According to the wikipedia article. boppers Oct 2012 #190

Wow! So can you point us in the direction of a real journalist then? sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #53

Yes, Amy Goodman has been snared in one too many clever phrasings and omissions of details for me. boppers Oct 2012 #148

Thom Hartmann is an entertainer???? navarth Oct 2012 #72

I don't see him that way at all. Jones, Beck and Fox are. They add nuts and whipped cream to truth. freshwest Oct 2012 #119

well of course. navarth Oct 2012 #130

Don't worry. Posters have strong opinions. I wish they'd stay to explain them. freshwest Oct 2012 #135

I believe you have made my point. boppers Oct 2012 #145

I've listened to him for years. boppers Oct 2012 #144

Lol, so you don't like Thom Hartmann, you don't like Amy Goodman and you don't like RT. sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #165

Olberman's shallow, Maddow's got a great wit, Moore is clever as hell. boppers Oct 2012 #192

Copying the right's shoddy opinions-as-news would mean all those people you mentioned sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #196

Sorry, it's shite. WND out of the Oligarchy of Russia. Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #22

If only more people would recognize that n/t loop204 Oct 2012 #28

You've never watched it have you? sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #48

More than once. Al-Jazeera is more to my liking. Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #50

Al Jazeera and RT are very similar. I watch both and have watched Al Jazeera since they first sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #62

From your comments it appears you are not familiar with the network. sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #58

Agreed, freshwest Oct 2012 #36

RT is one of the best news sources on TV. Based in DC it gives air time to Progressives who sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #20

"finally gives that truth with a Liberal Bias" boppers Oct 2012 #149

I guess you're not familiar with the saying. sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #161

Having it vs. giving it. eom boppers Oct 2012 #189

Yeah that's me: duped. DeSwiss Oct 2012 #23

Total Straw Man response. Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #25

Okay then, try these: DeSwiss Oct 2012 #29

Please do a little research on some of those 'authors' and 'journalists' while you're at it. Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #33

All the Wade Hicks Jr. articles you posted lead to one man loop204 Oct 2012 #34

Folow the links loop204 Oct 2012 #38

These guys make money from peddling fear loop204 Oct 2012 #43

Very good and I hate what the Paulbots did there. Thanks. freshwest Oct 2012 #56

Good posts in this thread... SidDithers Oct 2012 #159

And it looks like they were all wrong! sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #169

tl:dr...nt SidDithers Oct 2012 #178

... sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #181

132 words, 12 lines ... if that's "tl:dr" then I pity you. Nihil Oct 2012 #203

Jones also says that Obama was behind the Aurora, Sikh temple, etc. Now he's gonna bomb us? Please.. freshwest Oct 2012 #40

Can I ask you to remove the Canada Free Pres link? They are far right muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #78

Um, no, they are a very legitimate news channel, excellent coverage of foreign news and sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #49

This is RT's poster boy -- Alex Jones loop204 Oct 2012 #30

Well, Alex was around spreading terror long before RT. His 'documentary films' on Obama freshwest Oct 2012 #32

Ahhh... thanks... David Icke is the name that escaped me in my lasy post. n/t loop204 Oct 2012 #44

I enjoyed him for a while. What a unique view, I thought. Then realized the result of it. freshwest Oct 2012 #54

No, that is not RT's poster boy, but nice try. Since RT is one of my main news sources, and clearly sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #51

As a researcher, I'm very familiar with RT loop204 Oct 2012 #55

If you were a researcher, you would never have come here where many DUers are very familiar sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #57

----> loop204 Oct 2012 #59

From the Guardian loop204 Oct 2012 #60

And there is a perfect example of what I said about the demise of the Guardian as a credible sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #101

The NYT? Judith Miller? sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #61

I am reminded of an old con. boppers Oct 2012 #153

as per comment #2 is this Wade Hicks? azurnoir Oct 2012 #14

Nice pic at the link of Obama tearing up the Constitution and the flag in flames. freshwest Oct 2012 #31

More blazing info, recycled from when Obama tried to set up CCC, WPA groups in 2009, now 2012: freshwest Oct 2012 #42

After a brief tour of wingnut sites, I'm pretty sure that is him struggle4progress Oct 2012 #68

Hagmann forgot to mention it was a military flight, didn't he? msanthrope Oct 2012 #92

Wade Hicks who decided to use a military flight, and wonders why he got kicked off-- msanthrope Oct 2012 #90

should be easy for him to get off, but he says he holds an extra screening card already Sunlei Oct 2012 #79

He was on a military flight--and he wonders why he got kicked off???? nt msanthrope Oct 2012 #87

UNREC for omission--the man was on a military flight. Our military does not have to carry people msanthrope Oct 2012 #84

Thank you. AtomicKitten Oct 2012 #95

You are welcome. I'm enjoying reading how military flights subsidized by the taxpayers are now the msanthrope Oct 2012 #107

I'm enjoying watching you refusing to answer a simple question. sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #136

Sabrina, your questions can't be answered until you make better ones. So clarify, please, msanthrope Oct 2012 #138

That's not the question. Did you make the same argument against the hundreds of people who sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #140

Okay, so you are asserting this is a privilege, then? Do you have an actual case of a person in msanthrope Oct 2012 #142

Since when did political speech become a threat to this Democracy? sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #98

How is his speech infringed? It't not. He can say what he wishes, but the government doesn't have msanthrope Oct 2012 #103

His wife is the military. The government should not punish people for political speech I was sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #106

If his wife is in the military then she is well aware that flights are a privilege, and not a right. msanthrope Oct 2012 #110

Then you do believe that the Government should punish people for political speech. sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #116

See post 125. nt msanthrope Oct 2012 #127

On the bright side, ManiacJoe Oct 2012 #123

... A spokesman for the FBI's Terrorist Screening Center said he could neither confirm nor deny struggle4progress Oct 2012 #154

Well, if that statement is true, it looks like those of you arguing he was rightfully removed based sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #166

there's no evidence he ever was on the no fly list struggle4progress Oct 2012 #167

Whether he was or not people in this thread argued that it would be just fine to keep him off sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #172

Hicks is now claiming he's off the list--- msanthrope Oct 2012 #174

yeah, something like that would be my guess struggle4progress Oct 2012 #175

Always enjoyable, seeing who took RT/Alex Jones as gospel. nt msanthrope Oct 2012 #177

Even more enlightening is seeing who supports the rights of ALL Americans sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #182

Sabrina, I think you got Parlocked.... msanthrope Oct 2012 #185

What I got was a look at who cannot separate their own personal opinions from sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #187

Gulfport man says he's cleared of 'no-fly' order struggle4progress Oct 2012 #160

Phil Parlock gets to fly, then??? Amazing!!!! Always great to watch who falls for him. nt msanthrope Oct 2012 #179

But he was supposed to be sent to GITMO! What about the NDAA and the Police State? freshwest Oct 2012 #199

It would be nice to have at least two choices on foreign policy yurbud Oct 2012 #176

It would be nice if DUer's could remember Phil Parlock every election. msanthrope Oct 2012 #180

+ struggle4progress Oct 2012 #186

Kick (nt) muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #200