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graham4anything

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58. It has to be Hillary. Single strongest choice
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 12:42 AM
Oct 2012

John McCain made his fatal mistake in 2008 thinking someone younger would be an equal replacement. No, Sarah was not Hillary. (and I don't believe the Puma's were real.)

Hillary/Castro would make a great ticket. (Chicago/NY/Texas)
Hillary/Crist would also make a good ticket. (Chicago/NY/Florida)

That would be similiar to JFK/LBJ though I really think Castro and America would be better
the next period in history getting then keeping Texas blue.
Don't get me wrong- I would enthusiastically support him were he the candidate.
But we need him in the Gov. mansion In 2024, he will only be 50.

Granholm isn't eligible, however, on their side, that meant Arnold at the height of his popularity couldn't become one either.

Deval Patrick would be a good choice, but I really think neither party will nominate anyone from Mass. He too would make a good Supreme Court choice.

I want to go with the strongest candidate, because in some ways, with Obama's reelection, 2016 is even more important than 2012.

And she can beat Jeb. Bill defeated his father, and she is even stronger than Bill was.
With Castro as Texas Gov, and the demographic shift, she can win a landslide of epic proportions and without Texas, there is no viable path for a republican.

I picture Jeb/Portman or Jeb/Christie(assuming he is still a viable candidate for them, which would probably mean he couldn't run for reelection in NJ, because I think he would lose and then that would end his national ticket chance.)
I picture Obama's win against Mitt/Ryan will have Mitt blaming Ryan and he will be reduced to nothing.(same with the entire teaparty wing of the repubs.

and again, Hillary while SOS can't be political, and she don't need to say she is running out loud til 2014(though she might do it earlier to clear the field, but officially announcing is a big disadvantage early on for a strong candidate who doesn't need to introduce themselves to America. No serious democrat who became the nominee in modern time announced early on.

and a word about dirt- every piece of dirt is already known and discarded about Hillary.
It's all old news.

Whereas Jeb's history is not fully known, and Hillary can play the political game well when it comes down to it.

We need to win the governorships back though in all the states that they won in 2008 and 2010. One thing Rove did better was the governors.
We gotta put up great candidates (like Castro) and then GOTV in 2014 unlike 2010.

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She has been saying this for some time now. longship Oct 2012 #1
Best SOS indeed Kolesar Oct 2012 #4
Long time to decide DU9598 Oct 2012 #2
Getting women's rights back Politicalboi Oct 2012 #53
I think a big factor may be Bill's health. demgrrrll Oct 2012 #3
He's fine...why do you think he has a health problem. Open heart surgery doesn't mean what KoKo Oct 2012 #8
Sometimes his hands seem shaky. BVictor1 Oct 2012 #11
Lot's of people his age have "genetic tremor" ....and not heart related...just is what it is, though KoKo Oct 2012 #14
Shaky Hands Could Be A Medication Thing Too Bigredhunk Oct 2012 #16
could just be that he whacked off to much as a youngster olddad56 Oct 2012 #48
I don't know anymore than you do. Just something I feel. demgrrrll Oct 2012 #37
Then again, maybe they just want to enjoy life on their own time while they can.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #45
Damn. n/t James48 Oct 2012 #5
Whatever she decides, I support her. dmr Oct 2012 #6
projecting a little there? mopinko Oct 2012 #36
LOL! Chemisse Oct 2012 #67
Why would she when the Rethugs would attack her and drag every bit of the past back flamingdem Oct 2012 #7
Bill is 69% in Polls...one of the most popular Current Presidents of the USA! KoKo Oct 2012 #20
I agree condoleeza Oct 2012 #61
LOL! You do realize strategically she has to say that, right? boingboinh Oct 2012 #9
Yep. nt onehandle Oct 2012 #22
Let's just win this election first, OK? we can do it Oct 2012 #10
Yes. Not quite "in the bag," but gettin closer. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2012 #19
She has more than xxqqqzme Oct 2012 #12
NY Magazine just did a HUGE article: "Bill and Hillary Forever" She's running a former aide says. KoKo Oct 2012 #13
she`s to old to run... madrchsod Oct 2012 #15
Wouldn't she be close to Reagan's age, though? KoKo Oct 2012 #21
And his Alzheimers was kicking in at the end of his 2nd term loyalsister Oct 2012 #64
Do you know- Elizabeth warren is the SAME AGE as Hillary graham4anything Oct 2012 #29
Warren is not personable. And Hillary LOOKS old. randome Oct 2012 #33
Michelle46 after Hillary45 graham4anything Oct 2012 #34
Hey, I agree with you on a personal level. But politics is conducted via camera these days. randome Oct 2012 #40
You mean Texas Gov. Castro so that Texas will turn blue and make LBJ smile! graham4anything Oct 2012 #42
Yeah, I agree with you about letting the Republicans be the first party to nominate a woman. randome Oct 2012 #46
It has to be Hillary. Single strongest choice graham4anything Oct 2012 #58
A little off topic, but why do people keep bringing up Julian Castro? nsd Oct 2012 #60
now, I am just gonna say this demographically speaking, meaning no ill words here- graham4anything Oct 2012 #62
I appreciate the need to be inclusive, but that only goes so far. nsd Oct 2012 #63
We must elect a woman president in 2016. Possibly 2024 for then Gov. Castro. graham4anything Oct 2012 #65
yeah, the stoopids want a pres to look like a movie star but I'll take experienced & smart any day wordpix Oct 2012 #72
That's YOUR opinion and YOUR reality. I think Warren is personable & perhaps Hilary wordpix Oct 2012 #71
I'm not the only one who thinks Warren lacks personality. randome Oct 2012 #78
Bully Mentality otohara Oct 2012 #77
I wouldn't say it's the same Ter Oct 2012 #56
here we go again ... zbdent Oct 2012 #17
She will only change her mind and serve bucolic_frolic Oct 2012 #18
Her time may come if Romney get's Elected, though. And, that's why she would run... KoKo Oct 2012 #23
Such a long time to be on pins and needles . . . fadedrose Oct 2012 #24
PUMA propaganda Canuckistanian Oct 2012 #25
i'd like to know if she's remaining as SOS after Obama is re-elected shireen Oct 2012 #26
Nope. She has already indicated a while back that she was leaving after this term. eom Purveyor Oct 2012 #28
These nut-jobs are planning on it DeeDeeNY Oct 2012 #27
NO ONE announces they will run 4 years in advance, everyone denies it graham4anything Oct 2012 #30
message to girls: you can grow up to be president, just find and marry a man who will be president Dems to Win Oct 2012 #43
r-i-g-h-t - Hilary has done NOTHING on her own (sarcasm) - how about senator and Sec of State? wordpix Oct 2012 #70
You might want to take note that neither Michelle Obama or Elisabeth Warren davidpdx Oct 2012 #49
"There is no coronation for the presidency". Thank you, David. +1000000 n/t antigop Oct 2012 #73
SCOTUS appointment? 56miSSie Oct 2012 #31
They only pick people in their 50's now for SCOTUS. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #32
Justice Barack Obama picked by Hillary45 the 2rd year in her first term graham4anything Oct 2012 #35
Obama follows the footsteps of Taft 56miSSie Oct 2012 #41
Thanks... 56miSSie Oct 2012 #39
True, they are picking younger people for SCOTUS davidpdx Oct 2012 #50
I honestly don't think she'd have any chance at making it through the Senate. hughee99 Oct 2012 #54
Good! Keep it thus. Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #38
+1000000 n/t antigop Oct 2012 #75
Honestly, neither we not she knows the answer. DonCoquixote Oct 2012 #44
I feel like making a video like the Britney SPEARS fan: "Leave her aLONE!1" n/t UTUSN Oct 2012 #47
Good. truebluegreen Oct 2012 #51
we don't need dynasties and we don't need the DLC, Third Way,etc. DLC has done enough damage. n/t antigop Oct 2012 #52
Michelle Obama counts as a progressive? Julien Sorel Oct 2012 #55
Information. AtomicKitten Oct 2012 #66
Instead of cherry picking a bunch of stuff, Julien Sorel Oct 2012 #79
Glass Steagall,Telecommuncations act DonCoquixote Oct 2012 #81
I have re-read a few articles this morning, AtomicKitten Oct 2012 #82
Ahem, Julien Sorel Oct 2012 #83
Okay, so cherry-picking it is for you. AtomicKitten Oct 2012 #84
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This message was self-deleted by its author AtomicKitten Oct 2012 #86
You have no idea what you're talking about. You "belong Cha Oct 2012 #88
don't forget Commodity Futures Modernization Act. n/t antigop Oct 2012 #80
Hillary has been to hell and back. ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #57
me, too +1000 wordpix Oct 2012 #74
She has gained my respect. Jennicut Oct 2012 #59
"I just want to be my own person" - I can respect that. Chemisse Oct 2012 #68
Corporate Media - CNN/MSNBC/FOX - are already _ed_ Oct 2012 #69
So when is DLC Hillary going to explain the "advantages" of outsourcing to the Sensata workers? antigop Oct 2012 #76
How many women spend their entire life giving and giving ... Wernothelpless Oct 2012 #87
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