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appalachiablue

(41,132 posts)
22. + 2 These associations & motives could explain a lot.
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 09:09 AM
Jun 2021

> This long rant relates to the 'weight loss' topic of the post I did, not so much directed at you, but more for general info. So apologies for the overwhelming length! *And welcome to DU, I just noticed you're new..

Food here definitely needs regulating, more like Europe but it'll take monumental efforts given the power of Big Ag, Big Food, Big Pharma. Never before has there been this much cheap, poor quality junk food and processed stuff in cans, boxes, packages and containers. And many busy, rushed Americans live unhealthy sedentary lives- spent in offices, watching TV or on the computer, rarely walking or being physically active.

I read that the average supermarket chain adds about 2,000 new food and personal care products a year. Why we need 30 kinds of cola, 50 shampoo brands, and 13 kinds of apples I don't know. Industry 'food chemists' in R & D work on preservatives, additives, flavors, chemicals and toxins in our diet, it's a major part of the business. Healthier whole foods, organic, etc. is the way to go.

Food, Inc. resembles the tobaccco industry which years ago began adding chemicals- up to about 2,000 (how is that possible?) to cigarettes mainly to enhance flavor and speed up the absorption of nicotine in the body and brain for the 'high.' All so people would find smoking more enjoyable, and, 'buy more.' $$
The industry even added vasodilators (meds) to facilitate quicker intake of tobacco and chemicals I learned.



The best-selling book,"FAST FOOD NATION" by Eric Schlosser (2001) is an excellent source on the modern American food business from soup to nuts. Highly rec. but serious stuff. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_Food_Nation
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In 40 years, the growth of drive- thru places and convenience stores has exploded. Packaged salty and sweet foods on racks in retail stores everywhere so you can chow all day long and 'want more.' Giant portions and 'dinner' plates that were once 8" have become large platters. How shocked my grandparents and father would be today.

The urban- city Metro area I'm in has interesting sites and parks, a nearby historic, small town that's great for walking and atmosphere, and also suburbs ranging from the 1940s through the 80s exurbia trend and beyond.

Years ago I noticed many F & F who visited - people in good health, aged 28- 62, not obese or elderly- had difficulty (endurance) walking city park areas for 30-40 minutes at a leisurely pace and stopping briefly to look at a few sites - nothing strenuous. It was the same in the closeby old town with cute shops, pubs, bookstores, and a small walkable riverfront and park. The exception was my wonderful mom, always in good shape and interested in everything she never had difficulty walking or travelling anywhere, Manhattan, Santa Fe, Paris.

Years later, it occurred to me that it relates to the fact that the grumblers I love live in suburbs and smaller cities that mostly lack usable sidewalks, and the car is the main means of transportation-drive to the shopping ctr., park, then shop at Walmart, etc., and similar work pattern. It's unfortunate but reality in this troubled nation of ours.. End of massive rant. Sorry again..

We've had drugs to reduce appetite and increase feelings of fullness for decades Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2021 #1
The ideal miracle drug you describe may be appalachiablue Jun 2021 #2
Side effects include nausea and diarrhea. 3Hotdogs Jun 2021 #17
Those can cause weight loss too nt Wicked Blue Jun 2021 #34
Tru dat. 3Hotdogs Jun 2021 #50
game changer for Novo Nordisk, maybe Kali Jun 2021 #3
These New Drugs Are Only Game Changers if They're Reasonably Priced and They Won't Be. Indykatie Jun 2021 #4
Remember PhenFen? It worked like a charm, as I recall. I was totally disinterested in snacks... Hekate Jun 2021 #5
PhenFen AnnetteChaffee Jun 2021 #38
I am so sorry. I was off it fairly quickly, as my doc tends to be cautious about certain things... Hekate Jun 2021 #43
Fast food, processed food, energy drinks, industrial agriculture, all contribute to American obesity GoneOffShore Jun 2021 #6
And Genetics Lemon Lyman Jun 2021 #7
The "eat whatever they want/not work out" myth Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2021 #15
I'd love to be able to eat whatever as well. GoneOffShore Jun 2021 #23
I live on fast food, processed food, energy drinks but have never been overweight Skittles Jun 2021 #8
Wow, who are you chasing? milestogo Jun 2021 #19
heh Skittles Jun 2021 #49
That made me laugh. I spend may steps figuring out what the hell I was doing. Is that good?? Evolve Dammit Jun 2021 #52
Or, being chased by. nt reACTIONary Jun 2021 #59
Yes, some people are like you. Elessar Zappa Jun 2021 #33
I retired two years ago slightlv Jun 2021 #9
Good sleep is key to health including so much beyond weight. Kudos & thx posting key point. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2021 #13
Wow, that's interesting. tanyev Jun 2021 #24
Another night owl here. I would also be interested to know. nt Hekate Jun 2021 #44
Its a weekly injection.... Jon King Jun 2021 #10
Those things don't work for everyone. Marrah_Goodman Jun 2021 #25
If there is something that can help people... reACTIONary Jun 2021 #28
Congrats on the successful surgery! What a great result! Yay, you! deurbano Jun 2021 #32
Not sure which procedure you had, but.... moriah Jun 2021 #51
I had the sleeve procedure, not the bypass Marrah_Goodman Jun 2021 #53
Glad you're taking care of your body and can still absorb B vitamins. moriah Jun 2021 #63
So sorry your mom went through all that Marrah_Goodman Jun 2021 #64
There's a lot going on in intestines, liver, pancreas, gall bladder bucolic_frolic Jun 2021 #11
How about we start regulating food like other countries? They have junk food... MattNC2021 Jun 2021 #12
Europe doesn't do it by regulation. I think cultural attitudes play a key role Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2021 #14
Even the "supermarkets" in France carry fresh local food. lark Jun 2021 #26
+ 2 These associations & motives could explain a lot. appalachiablue Jun 2021 #22
Big Ag, Big Food, Big Pharma... reACTIONary Jun 2021 #29
Who is 'you'- moi? I don't get your meaning appalachiablue Jun 2021 #40
The author of a "rant" who stated... reACTIONary Jun 2021 #41
You're not understanding my comments appalachiablue Jun 2021 #45
Sorry for missunderstanding... reACTIONary Jun 2021 #46
Food and drink are highly regulated. Processed foods can only have so many PPM of waste products, TeamProg Jun 2021 #57
You are right, it is more a matter of degree... reACTIONary Jun 2021 #58
We decided to stay in the town we're presently living Lars39 Jun 2021 #36
You have good sense & that sounds great, esp. appalachiablue Jun 2021 #39
Well, we're not retired yet! Lars39 Jun 2021 #42
Good luck with the renovation & whenever appalachiablue Jun 2021 #55
Thanks, appalachiablue! Lars39 Jun 2021 #56
Exactly pandr32 Jun 2021 #37
BMI isnt nearly the best way to judge obesity oldsoftie Jun 2021 #16
I agree I am 5 8" and allowed to be 165 per BMI Woodwizard Jun 2021 #18
In defense of BMI... reACTIONary Jun 2021 #30
It's the American way - focus on the symptoms, not the causes. TheRickles Jun 2021 #20
That is good news Marrah_Goodman Jun 2021 #21
The thing that's funny is that bariatric surrgery TexasBushwhacker Jun 2021 #27
Thanks for the info nt reACTIONary Jun 2021 #31
I had the sleeve surgery Marrah_Goodman Jun 2021 #47
This is a diabetes drug and has been around for a while, known as ozempic JohnSJ Jun 2021 #35
Metformin is used for weight loss off label as well. roamer65 Jun 2021 #61
Yes. It is Ozempic at a higher dosage n/t TexasBushwhacker Jun 2021 #62
The BMI (Bullshit Measurement Index) needs to go. Probatim Jun 2021 #48
I like the Navy Method Body Fat Measurement Calculator. marie999 Jun 2021 #65
The Waist to Hip Ratio (WHR) is a good indicator as well. Probatim Jun 2021 #66
Americans are SO FAR removed from nature that we no longer know what to eat. TeamProg Jun 2021 #54
They way it works is by depleting your wallet of money so that you cannot buy food to eat. Xipe Totec Jun 2021 #60
For me, cutting out added sugar and most carbs has so far done the trick Happy Hoosier Jun 2021 #67
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