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(82,140 posts) Fri Jul 16, 2021, 11:45 AM Jul 2021

Manchin Shoots Down Filibuster Carveout For Voting Rights After Meeting With Texas Dems [View all]

Source: TPM

July 16, 2021 7:51 a.m.

A lot of things happened. Here are some of the things.
Digging His Heels In

Coming out of a meeting with the Texas Democrats who fled their state to block the passage of Texas Republicans’ voter suppression bill, Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) remained unswayed by their appeals to allow an exemption to the filibuster for the For The People Act.

“Forget the filibuster,” the West Virginia Democrat told reporters after the meeting.
But the Texas Democrats aren’t giving up hope, with state Sen. Nathan Johnson (D) telling reporters that “[t]hings have to happen at the pace they happen.”
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Manchin gets a high profile meeting with Texas Dems--and ploooooop!

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Manchin Shoots Down Filibuster Carveout For Voting Rights After Meeting With Texas Dems [View all] riversedge Jul 2021 OP

We have to do whatever it takes to make Manchin and Sinema irrelevant by winning seats in 2022 JohnSJ Jul 2021 #1

The counter-claim by some is that without HR1 we can't win more seats in 2022 FBaggins Jul 2021 #10

It'll be a lot harder but not impossible. Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #17

+++ JohnSJ Jul 2021 #49

It will be impossible if battlegrounds succeed in nullifying popular vote counts. ancianita Jul 2021 #52

Nothing is impossible! Some of the GOPers may even be in jail if their is any justice at all!. joetheman Jul 2021 #62

That has already been proven to be a blind ally... diverdownjt Jul 2021 #67

O political analyst I know thinks HR1 will pass. brooklynite Jul 2021 #38

I don't think it will either FBaggins Jul 2021 #39

And hows that going down? quakerboy Jul 2021 #84

Will Democrats still control the House after 2022 if voting rights legislation doesn't pass? n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2021 #26

Nope. Gerrymandering alone will give the GOP the majority before a single vote is cast Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #30

Some in those gerrymandered districts might surprise us. And COVID.... joetheman Jul 2021 #63

Fight the fear. Just run the very best candidates we can and leave no position uncontested. joetheman Jul 2021 #65

So might crime and inflation. n/t Calista241 Jul 2021 #74

No. Republicans will gerrymander new districts to give themselves the win. Lonestarblue Jul 2021 #35

A naive narrative that ignores reality and is doomed to fail Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #34

+1,000,000 ancianita Jul 2021 #53

I don't know why so many supposedly smart people don't get it, Fiendish Thingy. Efilroft Sul Jul 2021 #55

what's your solution? LymphocyteLover Jul 2021 #59

I am speaking out to friends, family, politicians -- anybody -- to thwart the GOP here in Pennsylvania Efilroft Sul Jul 2021 #73

Thanks... I do hope our elected Dems find some way to fix this LymphocyteLover Jul 2021 #81

Good point but not sure what we can possibly do LymphocyteLover Jul 2021 #58

It's simple- if folks aren't willing to continue to work harder, then democracy will perish Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #68

Wisconsin keroro gunsou Jul 2021 #75

That's one- name three more seats that the state legislature won't overturn if Dems win. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #78

apologies keroro gunsou Jul 2021 #91

THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Jul 2021 #82

+ ,10000 lsewpershad Jul 2021 #46

Manchin gets money from ALEC (Koch Brothers) & Rupert Murdoch Botany Jul 2021 #2

How much does it cost to destroy Democracy in America? jmbar2 Jul 2021 #4

The old school fossil fuel $$ is backing Manchin big time. Botany Jul 2021 #8

How much does it cost to destroy Manchin, sorry motherfucker? rickyhall Jul 2021 #37

Why can't a Billionaire like, for example, Bloomberg (or else) tell Manchin... Justice matters. Jul 2021 #50

He's loyal to his xxqqqzme Jul 2021 #64

time to get rid of this false flag democrat and show him his republican ways out the door. AllaN01Bear Jul 2021 #3

Do you want McConnell as Majority Leader? karynnj Jul 2021 #19

In other words, Manchin stands with the Minority ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2021 #5

Whatever the Republicans have on Manchin we need to up pandr32 Jul 2021 #6

What they have is a statewide election in West Virginia localroger Jul 2021 #16

I agree that he needs to win in state pandr32 Jul 2021 #20

He probably won't win, no matter his position on things. Unless he becomes Republican. SharonAnn Jul 2021 #27

There's a view that he can only win as a Democrat. Igel Jul 2021 #44

GAH! sakabatou Jul 2021 #7

Manchin should be treated like the Trump administration were treated. Ask them Maraya1969 Jul 2021 #9

It takes a narcissist to refuse to listen to anyone but himself rhiannon55 Jul 2021 #11

"Listen" does not mean to then change positions karynnj Jul 2021 #22

It's not just Manchin: George II Jul 2021 #12

Voting rights Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #18

But Manchin (and Sinema) aren't the only ones standing in the way of the Democratic Legislative.... George II Jul 2021 #23

Didn't say they were Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #25

I'm worried about everything Biden, Schumer, Pelosi and the majority of Democrats are pushing. George II Jul 2021 #33

Appears they're all after the same endgame however they bring it about. Budi Jul 2021 #57

BOTH are important and essential karynnj Jul 2021 #32

K & R Helps to know who else is on board with evil Manchin Budi Jul 2021 #56

Never pass up a shot at taking a swipe at the progressive block TiberiusB Jul 2021 #76

If any Dem promises to not vote for the reconciliation bill, in exchange for the bi-partisan bill.. Calista241 Jul 2021 #85

I know we aren't supposed to attack Democrats, but this is getting very tiresome. patphil Jul 2021 #13

I've had enough . Historic NY Jul 2021 #72

Without HR1, Texas is completely Fucked in 2022 after redistricting Shell_Seas Jul 2021 #14

my tweet jmbar2 Jul 2021 #15

Is this verified? OneCrazyDiamond Jul 2021 #54

Manchin don't worry about it when mitch mcconnell retakes control he will get rid filibuster mbmsr Jul 2021 #21

Look on the bright side bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #24

Only in the United States do we have a government run by the minority party. KS Toronado Jul 2021 #28

I assume someone has pointed out to Manchin Bayard Jul 2021 #29

Manchin is the kind of guy who would... LudwigPastorius Jul 2021 #31

A carve out is not the same as a modification of the filibuster rule Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #36

Sigh... still stuck on that one, eh? FBaggins Jul 2021 #41

I guess we'll find out soon enough, as Schumer seems intent on forcing the issue. Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #45

How long can you keep up that hope? FBaggins Jul 2021 #48

This summer has always been the timeline I have perceived, don't know where you got "any day now" Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #66

I'm afraid your memory is faulty. It wasn't implied... it was stated outright. FBaggins Jul 2021 #79

You assume a court would suspend the law immediately, I disagree Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #80

Of course it would be suspended immediately FBaggins Jul 2021 #86

Then we disagree- if any court grants a stay, it will be appealed until the stay is removed Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #87

What would the rationale for removing the stay be? FBaggins Jul 2021 #88

Congress could argue it has the constitutional right to direct federal elections Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #89

This message was self-deleted by its author FBaggins Jul 2021 #90

So what's new? Etherealoc1 Jul 2021 #40

I need a drink.....JFC..when people ask for help....what do some do... turbinetree Jul 2021 #42

Stuck on a chryon stillcool Jul 2021 #43

Time to get rid of this lsewpershad Jul 2021 #47

It ain't just ONE DINO we have to 'get rid of'. Appears there are a few more who are willing to ... Budi Jul 2021 #61

Can we find a way to pay him more than who ever is funding his obstruction? dbonds Jul 2021 #51

I propose a GoFundMe jmbar2 Jul 2021 #69

I hope one day in the future vercetti2021 Jul 2021 #60

Is Manchin's 15 minutes of fame up yet? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 2021 #70

Texas Democrats out, Manchin goes in Grimelle Jul 2021 #71

Where in Texas? czarjak Jul 2021 #77

So.. at what point does he switch sides? quakerboy Jul 2021 #83

Shameful. BeckyDem Jul 2021 #92