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55. I don't know why so many supposedly smart people don't get it, Fiendish Thingy.

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Fri Jul 16, 2021, 02:52 PM

Jul 2021

While Republicans scheme and Democrats Manchinsplain, November 2022 will be too late.

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Manchin Shoots Down Filibuster Carveout For Voting Rights After Meeting With Texas Dems [View all] riversedge Jul 2021 OP

We have to do whatever it takes to make Manchin and Sinema irrelevant by winning seats in 2022 JohnSJ Jul 2021 #1

The counter-claim by some is that without HR1 we can't win more seats in 2022 FBaggins Jul 2021 #10

It'll be a lot harder but not impossible. Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #17

+++ JohnSJ Jul 2021 #49

It will be impossible if battlegrounds succeed in nullifying popular vote counts. ancianita Jul 2021 #52

Nothing is impossible! Some of the GOPers may even be in jail if their is any justice at all!. joetheman Jul 2021 #62

That has already been proven to be a blind ally... diverdownjt Jul 2021 #67

O political analyst I know thinks HR1 will pass. brooklynite Jul 2021 #38

I don't think it will either FBaggins Jul 2021 #39

And hows that going down? quakerboy Jul 2021 #84

Will Democrats still control the House after 2022 if voting rights legislation doesn't pass? n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2021 #26

Nope. Gerrymandering alone will give the GOP the majority before a single vote is cast Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #30

Some in those gerrymandered districts might surprise us. And COVID.... joetheman Jul 2021 #63

Fight the fear. Just run the very best candidates we can and leave no position uncontested. joetheman Jul 2021 #65

So might crime and inflation. n/t Calista241 Jul 2021 #74

No. Republicans will gerrymander new districts to give themselves the win. Lonestarblue Jul 2021 #35

A naive narrative that ignores reality and is doomed to fail Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #34

+1,000,000 ancianita Jul 2021 #53

I don't know why so many supposedly smart people don't get it, Fiendish Thingy. Efilroft Sul Jul 2021 #55

what's your solution? LymphocyteLover Jul 2021 #59

I am speaking out to friends, family, politicians -- anybody -- to thwart the GOP here in Pennsylvania Efilroft Sul Jul 2021 #73

Thanks... I do hope our elected Dems find some way to fix this LymphocyteLover Jul 2021 #81

Good point but not sure what we can possibly do LymphocyteLover Jul 2021 #58

It's simple- if folks aren't willing to continue to work harder, then democracy will perish Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #68

Wisconsin keroro gunsou Jul 2021 #75

That's one- name three more seats that the state legislature won't overturn if Dems win. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #78

apologies keroro gunsou Jul 2021 #91

THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Jul 2021 #82

+ ,10000 lsewpershad Jul 2021 #46

Manchin gets money from ALEC (Koch Brothers) & Rupert Murdoch Botany Jul 2021 #2

How much does it cost to destroy Democracy in America? jmbar2 Jul 2021 #4

The old school fossil fuel $$ is backing Manchin big time. Botany Jul 2021 #8

How much does it cost to destroy Manchin, sorry motherfucker? rickyhall Jul 2021 #37

Why can't a Billionaire like, for example, Bloomberg (or else) tell Manchin... Justice matters. Jul 2021 #50

He's loyal to his xxqqqzme Jul 2021 #64

time to get rid of this false flag democrat and show him his republican ways out the door. AllaN01Bear Jul 2021 #3

Do you want McConnell as Majority Leader? karynnj Jul 2021 #19

In other words, Manchin stands with the Minority ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2021 #5

Whatever the Republicans have on Manchin we need to up pandr32 Jul 2021 #6

What they have is a statewide election in West Virginia localroger Jul 2021 #16

I agree that he needs to win in state pandr32 Jul 2021 #20

He probably won't win, no matter his position on things. Unless he becomes Republican. SharonAnn Jul 2021 #27

There's a view that he can only win as a Democrat. Igel Jul 2021 #44

GAH! sakabatou Jul 2021 #7

Manchin should be treated like the Trump administration were treated. Ask them Maraya1969 Jul 2021 #9

It takes a narcissist to refuse to listen to anyone but himself rhiannon55 Jul 2021 #11

"Listen" does not mean to then change positions karynnj Jul 2021 #22

It's not just Manchin: George II Jul 2021 #12

Voting rights Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #18

But Manchin (and Sinema) aren't the only ones standing in the way of the Democratic Legislative.... George II Jul 2021 #23

Didn't say they were Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #25

I'm worried about everything Biden, Schumer, Pelosi and the majority of Democrats are pushing. George II Jul 2021 #33

Appears they're all after the same endgame however they bring it about. Budi Jul 2021 #57

BOTH are important and essential karynnj Jul 2021 #32

K & R Helps to know who else is on board with evil Manchin Budi Jul 2021 #56

Never pass up a shot at taking a swipe at the progressive block TiberiusB Jul 2021 #76

If any Dem promises to not vote for the reconciliation bill, in exchange for the bi-partisan bill.. Calista241 Jul 2021 #85

I know we aren't supposed to attack Democrats, but this is getting very tiresome. patphil Jul 2021 #13

I've had enough . Historic NY Jul 2021 #72

Without HR1, Texas is completely Fucked in 2022 after redistricting Shell_Seas Jul 2021 #14

my tweet jmbar2 Jul 2021 #15

Is this verified? OneCrazyDiamond Jul 2021 #54

Manchin don't worry about it when mitch mcconnell retakes control he will get rid filibuster mbmsr Jul 2021 #21

Look on the bright side bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #24

Only in the United States do we have a government run by the minority party. KS Toronado Jul 2021 #28

I assume someone has pointed out to Manchin Bayard Jul 2021 #29

Manchin is the kind of guy who would... LudwigPastorius Jul 2021 #31

A carve out is not the same as a modification of the filibuster rule Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #36

Sigh... still stuck on that one, eh? FBaggins Jul 2021 #41

I guess we'll find out soon enough, as Schumer seems intent on forcing the issue. Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #45

How long can you keep up that hope? FBaggins Jul 2021 #48

This summer has always been the timeline I have perceived, don't know where you got "any day now" Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #66

I'm afraid your memory is faulty. It wasn't implied... it was stated outright. FBaggins Jul 2021 #79

You assume a court would suspend the law immediately, I disagree Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #80

Of course it would be suspended immediately FBaggins Jul 2021 #86

Then we disagree- if any court grants a stay, it will be appealed until the stay is removed Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #87

What would the rationale for removing the stay be? FBaggins Jul 2021 #88

Congress could argue it has the constitutional right to direct federal elections Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #89

This message was self-deleted by its author FBaggins Jul 2021 #90

So what's new? Etherealoc1 Jul 2021 #40

I need a drink.....JFC..when people ask for help....what do some do... turbinetree Jul 2021 #42

Stuck on a chryon stillcool Jul 2021 #43

Time to get rid of this lsewpershad Jul 2021 #47

It ain't just ONE DINO we have to 'get rid of'. Appears there are a few more who are willing to ... Budi Jul 2021 #61

Can we find a way to pay him more than who ever is funding his obstruction? dbonds Jul 2021 #51

I propose a GoFundMe jmbar2 Jul 2021 #69

I hope one day in the future vercetti2021 Jul 2021 #60

Is Manchin's 15 minutes of fame up yet? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 2021 #70

Texas Democrats out, Manchin goes in Grimelle Jul 2021 #71

Where in Texas? czarjak Jul 2021 #77

So.. at what point does he switch sides? quakerboy Jul 2021 #83

Shameful. BeckyDem Jul 2021 #92