Manchin Shoots Down Filibuster Carveout For Voting Rights After Meeting With Texas Dems

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86. Of course it would be suspended immediately

There are legitimate constitutional questions and just about any court would issue a temporary stay while those were adjudicated. If some court decided not to do so... that would just cause that decision to be appealed to a court that would... further delaying implementation. They can't just let the law take effect until the courts make up their minds... because some of the changes are irreversible (like those targeting gerrymandering)

I guess you assumed I meant he would use it instantaneously upon being filibustered

Don't kid yourself into thinking that anyone is buying that spin. Once again... your post was in direct reply to my claim that the change to requiring 41 votes to sustain a filibuster won't even come up. You then said, "it will come up the week of June 21". You also said "Schumer will force a vote" in that context (6/21) and clarified that it meant "force a rule change vote". You may no longer remember it, but it isn't an inference or an assumption. You were clearly saying not only that Manchin had agreed to change the rules, but that a vote on that was going to happen the following week.

That didn't happen. As you were told at the time... Schumer doesn't have the votes.

Both the senate and the streets are just getting warmed up.

While reporting seems to say exactly the opposite. That the Senate is shifting their focus to the budget and infrastructure and just paying lip service to voting rights.

But days after nearly 60 Texas Democrats made their dramatic exodus from Austin to Washington, many of them acknowledge that how that battle will unfold remains very uncertain — and that they have a rapidly closing window to capitalize on the national spotlight.

While they quickly secured meetings with Vice President Harris, Sen. Joe Manchin III (D-W.Va.) and other lawmakers in their first week in Washington, so far the Texans have been unable to push forward long-stalled federal voting rights legislation.

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“Time is not on our side,” Thierry said an interview.

The Texans have said they plan to remain in Washington through Aug. 7, when the special legislative session ordered by Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) is scheduled to expire. Their exact plan until then is still in the works.

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But the Texas Democrats face tough odds as they seek to spur Congress to action. Manchin and Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) have publicly opposed changes to the filibuster, the Senate’s 60-vote supermajority requirement, which are necessary for the voting bill to advance.

Manchin’s posture did not budge even after the Texans pressed him in person. “Forget the filibuster,” the senator told reporters afterward.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/texas-democrats-washington-exodus/2021/07/17/c1ecdfc6-e57d-11eb-8aa5-5662858b696e_story.html