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(3,980 posts) Wed Aug 11, 2021, 01:15 PM Aug 2021

New data on coronavirus vaccine effectiveness may be "a wakeup call" [View all]

Source: Axios

A new preprint study that raises concerns about the mRNA vaccines' effectiveness against Delta — particularly Pfizer's — has already grabbed the attention of top Biden administration officials.

What they're saying: The study found the Pfizer vaccine was only 42% effective against infection in July, when the Delta variant was dominant. "If that's not a wakeup call, I don't know what is," a senior Biden official told Axios.

Driving the news: The study, conducted by nference and the Mayo Clinic, compared the effectiveness of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines in the Mayo Clinic Health System over time from January to July.

Read more: https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-vaccines-pfizer-moderna-delta-biden-e9be4bb0-3d10-4f56-8054-5410be357070.html

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New data on coronavirus vaccine effectiveness may be "a wakeup call" [View all] TheProle Aug 2021 OP

Moderna was shot into my arm. ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2021 #1

Moderna here, too TheProle Aug 2021 #2

Me to. Texaswitchy Aug 2021 #4

Just lucked into Moderna Farmer-Rick Aug 2021 #13

Moderna here, too, but my wnylib Aug 2021 #28

I also got Moderna, & with both shots had no appalachiablue Aug 2021 #76

I got lucky too. multigraincracker Aug 2021 #31

I had Covid arm that lasted a couple of weeks - nothing took the pain and itching away. Native Aug 2021 #49

Moderna too. Arresting Aug 2021 #44

I got Moderna, too, the first one available to me, and I felt awful that night and the next day Rhiannon12866 Aug 2021 #72

Preliminary data have shown for some time that Moderna is more effective against Delta Warpy Aug 2021 #3

We don't even know what the data points ARE at this point. BobTheSubgenius Aug 2021 #26

Pretty much, which is why I said "preliminary." Warpy Aug 2021 #29

I was agreeing with you, not arguing. BobTheSubgenius Aug 2021 #74

I'm never sure about that, this can be a tough house. Warpy Aug 2021 #75

In fairness, my phrasing could have been better. BobTheSubgenius Aug 2021 #78

Time to develop, get approval, and administer that booster.. is NOW! ananda Aug 2021 #5

All of them have already been working on them BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #17

So what? Not the goal of the Covid-19 vaccines JT45242 Aug 2021 #6

I can see you feel strongly about this TheProle Aug 2021 #9

And a good enough effect to make the exercise well worth it, IMO. BobTheSubgenius Aug 2021 #27

Indeed. Duppers Aug 2021 #65

Good. Always nice to have people agree. :D BobTheSubgenius Aug 2021 #73

not sure where you got that the vaccines were designed that way Blues Heron Aug 2021 #11

Sorry, you have been misinformed PSPS Aug 2021 #23

... Major Nikon Aug 2021 #48

Considering how each wave results in new mutations... NullTuples Aug 2021 #32

Glad I got moderna, although I just took what they gave me. DemocraticPatriot Aug 2021 #7

Same here. milestogo Aug 2021 #52

"Even so, this particular study found that the moderna vac was only 76% effective against Delta" BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #54

This study contradicts other studies level of durability including that of Pfizer rkleinberger Aug 2021 #8

"I am not yet buying the 42% figure. " TheProle Aug 2021 #10

Agree. Also, this study of effectiveness wnylib Aug 2021 #30

The article says dosing is the likely difference IronLionZion Aug 2021 #12

I think this is why Pfizer all but begged BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #14

No, this is not why. Back in April the results of this study has not been published yet. totodeinhere Aug 2021 #59

I'm not talking about the OP study BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #62

When you said "this is why" I assumed you were talking about the OP study. totodeinhere Aug 2021 #63

The OP study is verifying what others have been finding regarding potential drop off BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #64

But it keeps you out of the hospital. truthisfreedom Aug 2021 #15

From the Axios article: Fiendish Thingy Aug 2021 #16

Coaxin from India is effective against Delta and is about to get WHO approval peoli Aug 2021 #18

Because India needs it? IronLionZion Aug 2021 #41

It's not mRNA and is effective against Delta. Fauci knows all about it peoli Aug 2021 #68

So if we already got the approved Vaccines can we still take this one ? JI7 Aug 2021 #70

Is that what Modi got ? And why he hasn't gotten infected yet JI7 Aug 2021 #67

Yes Modi got the first and second dose of covaxin peoli Aug 2021 #69

It's just one case so you can't go on that alone JI7 Aug 2021 #71

42%! Bayard Aug 2021 #19

Very. salin Aug 2021 #50

From Yale U., for what it's worth... Duppers Aug 2021 #66

Kick dalton99a Aug 2021 #20

I got Moderna, but I got it very early. I really hope they figure out the booster soon. Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #21

Pfizer is tracking its clinical trial participants Deminpenn Aug 2021 #22

Very bad news when the kids going back unmasked, un-distanced and only a minority of those 12 and Evolve Dammit Aug 2021 #24

This study is about infection, not hospitalizations or deaths. Jon King Aug 2021 #25

Exactly. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2021 #36

That makes sense, and is consistent with what I have read. salin Aug 2021 #51

It is, in fact, should this concern be real, relatively straight... NNadir Aug 2021 #33

+1 on all your points. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2021 #35

Thank you for your thoughtful & sensible advice. h2ebits Aug 2021 #37

+2 ProfessorGAC Aug 2021 #46

That is a SCARE HEADLINE. Here's why: Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2021 #34

You are 100% correct. secondwind Aug 2021 #39

Agree with your points, except it's hard to conclude that erring on the wiggs Aug 2021 #45

Problem is that the scare is that maybe "vaccines don't work! See!" except they do Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2021 #55

But you don't want to get infected, period . . . Arresting Aug 2021 #56

Period. I'm double vaccinated but wear mask in stores even though case loads very low this region.nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2021 #57

And yet I just had a "discussion" with a NURSE about the "failure" of the vaccine oldsoftie Aug 2021 #77

Perhaps efficacy is diminished because we are now with DELTA, not Covid. As the virus mutates, it secondwind Aug 2021 #38

Delta inthewind21 Aug 2021 #43

Husband and I are participating in a trial cilla4progress Aug 2021 #40

Not panic-worthy: Technically, don't all vaccines have nearly 0% efficacy against wiggs Aug 2021 #42

this article points to studies that show the opposite iemanja Aug 2021 #47

The vaccines can be changed videohead5 Aug 2021 #53

Before we panic we should take note of this from the article. totodeinhere Aug 2021 #58

"effectiveness against severe illness, hospitalization and death is still pretty good." TheProle Aug 2021 #60

Axios trolling for clicks. Assholes. n/t TygrBright Aug 2021 #61

Does anyone know whether we should be concerned scipan Aug 2021 #79