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Jedi Guy

(3,189 posts)
32. I get what Vindman and you are saying here, and ordinarily I would agree.
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 09:26 PM
Sep 2021

However, Trump was not an ordinary President by any stretch of the imagination. He never had his shit in one sock to begin with, and after he lost the election, the sock was missing in action and the shit was spread hither, thither, and yon. Yes, Milley most certainly threw out the rulebook by doing what he did. In a perfect world, the cabinet would've come together and invoked the 25th Amendment.

Unfortunately, we don't live in a perfect world and I doubt like hell that the rules were written with a President like Trump in mind. Milley broke the rules, but his reasons for doing so were sterling. I find it very hard to fault him for what he did, particularly since one shudders to think what might have happened if he hadn't.

Given the totality of the circumstances, I think he should be quietly asked to retire and the matter should be considered closed with that.

Seven days in January TallJohn Sep 2021 #1
I'm with you, I don't trust the military brass either. Escurumbele Sep 2021 #9
And with Trump, PatSeg Sep 2021 #10
No we don't TallJohn Sep 2021 #15
"warning that we had taken the nuke codes away". Yes, please! TomWilm Sep 2021 #17
I would think the world would breathe a sigh of relief harumph Sep 2021 #18
Very true. Trump over-stepped all boundaries and would be a dictator right now SouthernDem4ever Sep 2021 #24
And fat orange clown MOMFUDSKI Sep 2021 #30
Welcome to DU. TallJohn. calimary Sep 2021 #25
I don't agree with that, he may have saved the World from the worst possible catastrophe Escurumbele Sep 2021 #27
Except that Milley NEVER told anyone to disobey the President! Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2021 #38
This. Mz Pip Sep 2021 #40
The nuclear codes were not "taken away" Dave says Sep 2021 #41
What would he be charged with. He didn't tell anyone to refuse an order. marie999 Sep 2021 #42
Wrong link left-of-center2012 Sep 2021 #2
Change has been made to your link...Thank You for the correction..I appreciate it.. Stuart G Sep 2021 #4
If tRump was still pres this book would never been published & Woodward would probably yaesu Sep 2021 #3
100% agree bluestarone Sep 2021 #6
So lucky for us - and Milley! Backseat Driver Sep 2021 #5
I remember that happened with Nixon before he resigned. Turbineguy Sep 2021 #7
We were so close to F'd, nightmare inducing. sarcasmo Sep 2021 #8
Shadow President Pelosi to the Rescue GopherGal Sep 2021 #11
Good God. The Orange F-wad could have done anything. Irish_Dem Sep 2021 #12
All the Republicans have gone into serious mental decline Champp Sep 2021 #13
+1 ffr Sep 2021 #22
More like mental depravity onetexan Sep 2021 #36
wow. no wonder we were so worried! thank god milley was worried too. nt orleans Sep 2021 #14
tRump also told Pence, "If you don't do this BigmanPigman Sep 2021 #16
It's more than that... 2naSalit Sep 2021 #21
Exactly Alice Kramden Sep 2021 #29
clear and present danger as well. AllaN01Bear Sep 2021 #19
Weakass Pence wasn't sure what to do, obey the law or remain a loyal friend to TFG? ffr Sep 2021 #20
So we don't really know who is in charge. twodogsbarking Sep 2021 #23
Important, important stuff. But FFS the headline and article make it seem like the story wiggs Sep 2021 #26
We all speculated.... SergeStorms Sep 2021 #28
I said from the very beginning that the military would not follow MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2021 #34
Well. I'm sure nothing will become of it now. TallJohn Sep 2021 #31
I get what Vindman and you are saying here, and ordinarily I would agree. Jedi Guy Sep 2021 #32
If Trump ordered a strike and the military said no, that's by definition a military coup, right? NickB79 Sep 2021 #33
That would be a..... SergeStorms Sep 2021 #35
The President is the Commander in Chief NickB79 Sep 2021 #39
Thank Goodness for Gen Milley.. Cha Sep 2021 #37
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