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freshwest

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59. No, this happened in a suburb or small town near Houston. Not the Green River Killer.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:30 PM
Oct 2012

Last edited Thu Oct 25, 2012, 11:33 PM - Edit history (2)

If you're talking about Yates, that trial was extensively covered and I don't remember that, although he was a real POS.

The one in Baytown, or wherever it was, was like this NYPD pervert, but he got his chance, and this cop hadn't done it yet. The reason, too, that I don't want him out later, is he was going all over the place, planning this out with detail. This was no spur of the moment, whatever, anymore than Dahmer, Gacy or what's his name. I suspect if released, he'll go for it again.

I mentioned that seventies case to someone a while back who lived in Houston, and they knew his name. It was the kind of think you don't forget. There were a number of notorious serial killers at the time. The death penalty was considered cruel and unusual and there was a moratorium. And it wasn't much longer after this case and some others, that it was re-instated.

I remember at least three cases of people who were sentenced to life without parole who had committed several murders each. Really, horrible, depraved killings. But they were not kept in prison for life, as the jurors expected, but were instead released. The excuse was overcrowding.

Those three, and there were more no doubt, went on killing sprees the same day or a few days after their release. That was what built public support for the death penalty again. I don't know what the jury instructions are now, but I believe one of the questions the jury had to answer to impose the death penalty was, did the jury believe the killer would continue to be a threat to society, IOW, would they kill again. That was the factor I heard was used.

I have no idea what the standard is now, or if that was ever the real standard or not. But it made sense. It wasn't based on vengeance, it was due to mistrust of the system to keep its word and keep the public safe from incorrigible killers. The answer to the death penalty is the same as it was when it was then -- keep those who would kill again away from the public. That requires tax money.

Some people have made the argument that killing people saves money, but it doesn't. And that should not be the reason. Other countries give people long sentences with rehabilitation before being released.

This NYPD guy, I don't know. He was able to function and carry out his plans and appears to be sociopath. No cure for that.

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What was his Freeper I.D.?? thelordofhell Oct 2012 #1
What was his Freeper I.D.?? heide70 Oct 2012 #43
Would the Ku Klux Freep even allow him to sign up? FrodosPet Oct 2012 #55
This sounds like a job for Dexter n/t Duer 157099 Oct 2012 #2
WTF?!? yends21012 Oct 2012 #3
Has Romney endorsed him yet? Orrex Oct 2012 #4
... L0oniX Oct 2012 #9
Has Romney endorsed hin yet? heide70 Oct 2012 #39
I wish they'd experiment on him for 20 years zazen Oct 2012 #5
+1 freshwest Oct 2012 #37
sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick n/t azurnoir Oct 2012 #6
Probably the sadistic MF that went around pepper spraying innocent bystanding occupiers. W T F Oct 2012 #7
Yes, I'd like to see his record as a six-year member of the NYPD. sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #10
NO SHIT this guy fell through the cracks--how on earth he even came close to passing a psych exam, Nay Oct 2012 #20
The guy looks perfectly normal, like Bundy did. hifiguy Oct 2012 #28
No sh$t this guy fell through the cracks...... heide70 Oct 2012 #49
"To Protect and Serve" means different things to different people, I guess. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2012 #8
You owe me a keyboard. nolabear Oct 2012 #11
Oh, my. Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #12
glad you went there it crossed my mind but........n/t azurnoir Oct 2012 #22
You saw that old Twilight Zone episode too? whathehell Oct 2012 #25
First Damon Knight. "it's a cookbook". But yeah <G>. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2012 #27
Don't know Damon Knight. But yeah, "It's a cookbook" -- "To Serve Man"! n/t whathehell Oct 2012 #40
Written in the 50's, pre Twilight Zone, supposedly the author's jtuck004 Oct 2012 #42
This is up there on the weird scale, but was only a plan, and compared to very real injustices jtuck004 Oct 2012 #26
Except he violated several laws during the planning stage. He accessed information sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #31
There is a difference between being on the menu and having been eaten. One still has hope. jtuck004 Oct 2012 #34
Yeah...About an hour. whathehell Oct 2012 #46
Well. that's true <G> n/t jtuck004 Oct 2012 #47
Yeah, I figured we'd agree eventually. whathehell Oct 2012 #58
Yes, the only difference appears to be that someone turned him in. sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #51
I didn't say he shouldn't be removed, though I doubt he will serve any jail time. jtuck004 Oct 2012 #53
Abusing his authority... I hope he doesn't get put away in a prison mental ward and let out later. freshwest Oct 2012 #36
Was that the Green River Killer, or the Clown, whose name I forget sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #52
No, this happened in a suburb or small town near Houston. Not the Green River Killer. freshwest Oct 2012 #59
Are you kidding? pitbullgirl1965 Oct 2012 #32
Death seems seems a bigger injustice, in that they have no way to recover. And he didn't jtuck004 Oct 2012 #33
The FBI seems to disagree with you. True he didn't kill anyone, as far as we know. sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #60
"only a PLAN"??!! whathehell Oct 2012 #41
It takes all kinds. That's what makes the world go 'round. Quite an eclectic lifestyle, I must say. AAO Oct 2012 #13
I find your post disturbing. mahina Oct 2012 #19
How would you like to be his entree?...No, I don't think we DO need his "kind". whathehell Oct 2012 #44
WTF?? smirkymonkey Oct 2012 #54
The more we subjugate and repress women, the worse the violence becomes against them AllyCat Oct 2012 #14
Amen. Octafish Oct 2012 #17
huh???? heaven05 Oct 2012 #15
Holy crap! First the Tea Party rapist in Utah . . . caseymoz Oct 2012 #16
Jesus. With friends like this who the fuck needs enemies? 47of74 Oct 2012 #18
Well, he's NOT getting best cop of the year award! n/t proReality Oct 2012 #21
With some fava beans and a nice chianti? edbermac Oct 2012 #23
Lecter only offed "the free range rude" that hifiguy Oct 2012 #29
Oh well, I guess we should just move along then..Nothing to see here. whathehell Oct 2012 #45
OMG...Is it something in the air? whathehell Oct 2012 #24
Whole new spin on protect and serve - at 180F. marble falls Oct 2012 #30
Added to fingrinn Oct 2012 #35
Nah....Google "German Cannible murderer" whathehell Oct 2012 #48
One memorable name fingrinn Oct 2012 #56
Armin Meiwes is another one. whathehell Oct 2012 #57
Ick Aerows Oct 2012 #38
well that's a terrible plan arely staircase Oct 2012 #50
Hope he was only targeting free range women and not ones in binders. SpartanDem Oct 2012 #61
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