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In reply to the discussion: N.Y. police officer charged with plan to cook, eat women [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)Last edited Thu Oct 25, 2012, 11:33 PM - Edit history (2)
If you're talking about Yates, that trial was extensively covered and I don't remember that, although he was a real POS.
The one in Baytown, or wherever it was, was like this NYPD pervert, but he got his chance, and this cop hadn't done it yet. The reason, too, that I don't want him out later, is he was going all over the place, planning this out with detail. This was no spur of the moment, whatever, anymore than Dahmer, Gacy or what's his name. I suspect if released, he'll go for it again.
I mentioned that seventies case to someone a while back who lived in Houston, and they knew his name. It was the kind of think you don't forget. There were a number of notorious serial killers at the time. The death penalty was considered cruel and unusual and there was a moratorium. And it wasn't much longer after this case and some others, that it was re-instated.
I remember at least three cases of people who were sentenced to life without parole who had committed several murders each. Really, horrible, depraved killings. But they were not kept in prison for life, as the jurors expected, but were instead released. The excuse was overcrowding.
Those three, and there were more no doubt, went on killing sprees the same day or a few days after their release. That was what built public support for the death penalty again. I don't know what the jury instructions are now, but I believe one of the questions the jury had to answer to impose the death penalty was, did the jury believe the killer would continue to be a threat to society, IOW, would they kill again. That was the factor I heard was used.
I have no idea what the standard is now, or if that was ever the real standard or not. But it made sense. It wasn't based on vengeance, it was due to mistrust of the system to keep its word and keep the public safe from incorrigible killers. The answer to the death penalty is the same as it was when it was then -- keep those who would kill again away from the public. That requires tax money.
Some people have made the argument that killing people saves money, but it doesn't. And that should not be the reason. Other countries give people long sentences with rehabilitation before being released.
This NYPD guy, I don't know. He was able to function and carry out his plans and appears to be sociopath. No cure for that.