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zipplewrath

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71. Perhaps you only started paying attention

Tue Jan 17, 2012, 04:59 PM

Jan 2012

They knew in the first two years, when the democrats controlled both houses of congress, that he debt ceiling would have to be raised. They especially knew when in November of 2010, the LOST control of both houses and would have only until the end of the year to raise the limit. "They" chose to wait until they had to fight it out with the GOP controlled house to try to do anything. The end result is the debt deal Obama negotiated and now is discussing as something forced upon him.

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Obama administration warns the left: You will not like our budget [View all] kpete Jan 2012 OP

The Hill...always a neutral beltway rag BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #1

So, you're saying that Liberals WILL like the President's budget? brooklynite Jan 2012 #37

But if its like some other promises dipsydoodle Jan 2012 #2

And again, this is a congressional action that the Republicans blocked! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #7

Kinda lame zipplewrath Jan 2012 #3

Pelosi and Reid's fault. They readily admit that they should have increased the debt limit Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #6

Democratic presidents don't ''control'' congress. Republican presidents can almost ignore it at yurbud Jan 2012 #14

I think you meant to reply to Zipplerwrath. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #19

Who's the leader of the party? zipplewrath Jan 2012 #36

Obama is the de facto leader of the Democratic Party, but Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #42

Controls both houses zipplewrath Jan 2012 #70

The article quotes the WH as saying "Libs won't like OUR budget" Doctor_J Jan 2012 #62

I think he's preempting the Republicans who are going to do much Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #64

Control? Here are the stats: patrice Jan 2012 #10

I wish that I could bookmark this chart. It needs to be sticked to the top of this forum. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #20

Very insightful work. I remember a few DU -ers in Nov. '08 saying, TTE patrice Jan 2012 #23

So they didn't have the votes for the debt ceiling zipplewrath Jan 2012 #34

I think it's really more about how it is sooooooooo easy to hold this or that hostage patrice Jan 2012 #43

BTW, perhaps I mistake your meaning: the debt ceiling battle was this last Congress, when Dems patrice Jan 2012 #60

Perhaps you only started paying attention zipplewrath Jan 2012 #71

Repub's stranle hold..."always need 60 votes to pass anything" Most important to remember. The Wielding Truth Jan 2012 #56

"those numbers really matter" which is WHY there's such a concerted effort to blame the entire patrice Jan 2012 #59

This could be just spin to make it look like they're being hard on their own side Renew Deal Jan 2012 #4

I won't know how I feel about this DocMac Jan 2012 #5

I Know How I Feel RobinA Jan 2012 #11

AP headline: Sun Warns Earth: "Expect Me to Rise in Morning" RandomKoolzip Jan 2012 #8

Ain't It the Truth RobinA Jan 2012 #12

Perfectly said. russspeakeasy Jan 2012 #54

The left warns Obama administration: You won't like the turnout this November. Lasher Jan 2012 #9

+100 Myrina Jan 2012 #13

+1,000,000,000,000,000,000 Odin2005 Jan 2012 #15

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That is my worry. Lasher Jan 2012 #40

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But then, perhaps THAT is the point. Who knows, on the internet! patrice Jan 2012 #53

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Really? jaxx Jan 2012 #25

What is that supposed to mean? Lasher Jan 2012 #32

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President Obama, by his deeds. Lasher Jan 2012 #50

The comment that said jaxx Jan 2012 #51

You think my prediction will suppress voter turnout? Lasher Jan 2012 #63

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That is true. Lasher Jan 2012 #39

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There's a good chance you're right. Lasher Jan 2012 #55

Actually, RobinA Jan 2012 #65

"Just the view from where I sit" maybe youre sitting on your head cause youre not thinking leftyohiolib Jan 2012 #69

Do You Seriously RobinA Jan 2012 #72

well if theyre both the same then vote dem leftyohiolib Jan 2012 #74

+1000000 woo me with science Jan 2012 #31

Well said!!! n/t Beacool Jan 2012 #38

Hugabear warns Democrats who don't vote: You won't like a rethug president Hugabear Jan 2012 #44

I'll Vote RobinA Jan 2012 #73

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the left turned out in 2010, but you already knew that.. frylock Jan 2012 #67

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Many don't need a 'warning' tawadi Jan 2012 #18

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It's not W's tax break anymore. a simple pattern Jan 2012 #26

The House vote to extend for the middle-class only significantly damaged that possibility + patrice Jan 2012 #33

to do that would have cost unemployment insurance for the, well , unemployed leftyohiolib Jan 2012 #35

Absolutely artificial construct = to extract those tax breaks from the WHOLE context of their patrice Jan 2012 #58

Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #27

I am outraged! Orsino Jan 2012 #29

My sentiment exactly BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #47

Ain't anonymity great?! Especially for certain of the employed who seem to have so much time to patrice Jan 2012 #57

Here we go again. woo me with science Jan 2012 #30

Doesn't matter n2doc Jan 2012 #52

Excellent campaign slogan for the president Doctor_J Jan 2012 #61

I guess we don't like it when you sentence millions to grinding, India level poverty AngryAmish Jan 2012 #68

I am a democrat. campaigned for the pres will do it again. end of story.... dcsmart Jan 2012 #75

Doesn't look like it's happened yet. When it does it will be breaking. As it it is, it is analysis. rug Jan 2012 #76