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In reply to the discussion: WikiLeaks Says It Has Released Hacked U.S. Detainee Rules [View all]graham4anything
(11,464 posts)I don't admire anarchy.
as Mark Rudd (from the 1960s) has said and learned(not exact words)
what worked in the 60s is not the way to go in the 2010's.
you rebuild the parts you don't like from within, not from without
leaks are bad. Whether they be Valerie Plame or others.
As for Daniel Ellsberg? This is not the 1970s. This is today.
and this leaking stuff has the potential to bring down the entire internet into a vast silence.
(which then would lead to exactly what I am sure is not what someone pro-leak would want.)
Is that the "sounds of silence" those favoring the leaks wants?
I seriously doubt it.
By the way- V was just a movie with Natalie Portman and that great character actor Hugo.
It was NOT real. And in no way does that movie glorify anything in 2012. It was just a movie
where of course, in the movies, one roots for over the top things that may have actually happened in another place, another time, another world, but it is very odd
the vast majority who are pro-leaks shudder at the thought of having to get on an airline in safety, but have a machine make sure they are not carrying.
Something is wrong with that picture.
You want transparancy, but you don't want transparancy when entering an airline terminal and plane and would rather have secrecy in that as opposed to the assurance one may get to their destination safely, unlike say on 9/11.
again, this is not the old times.
we are living in a new world. And there are two choices (amazing prophetic in the 1960s tv farce...
we can have Kaos
or we can have Control
we cannot have anarchy which leads to Kaos.
Do you want all your personal emails to be revealed?(though if one has nothing to hide, there really is no reason for secrecy.)
But I would rather have safety.
and then through the criminal court system, those that abuse the law can be tried and if found guilty convicted
but that means one needs to obey the laws that are on the books
in the words of the old serenity canard
grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And the wisdom to know the difference
leaks are NOT a good thing.
changing laws enacted by Congress(NOT THE PRESIDENT) can be done in legal ways
(same as someday #2BOR will be re-interpreted humanely unlike the way it is now.)
Corrupt courts in time get replaced by good ones
Much as the Bush/Cheney admin. was retired and is never coming back, as long as people don't vote them back in.
(and as we know the two parties are NOT one and the same, if for no other reason than the ability to pick fantastic or fanatical justices-depending on who is doing the picking.
and I look forward. not backward.
in the words of #6
be seeing you in future posts in future arguments sometimes probably more than likely agreeing, sometimes not.
we agree to disagree or agree to agree. That is what an honest debate is suppose to be
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peace and love to you always.