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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
28. Or, untried candidates can harness ignorance and confusion
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 08:33 PM
Sep 2021

of well meaning voters to use ranked choice to become a spoiler, perhaps even competitive!, by drawing off votes from Democrats, and to harness the hostile passions of LW authoritarians, RWers, and antgonistic populist ttypes to enable them flood into Democratic elections to defeat Democratic candidates.

Remember the horrible mistakes of 2016? They're still devastating our nation and could still kill our democracy, and with it purge progressivism from government. For possiby the rest of our lives. A RW police state full of poor, oppressed, exploited people, would be a very inadequate replacement for national healthcare and taxpayer-funded universal K-12 education. (Yes, that's in danger.)

Or just look at Kyrsten Sinema. She developed a public identity by starting in the Green (a third) Party, drawing a lot of people who'd vote for a bag of potpourri if it ran against Democrats, displayed some conservative but little known attitudes, and persuaded Democrats who didn't do their homework/were drawn to "outsider," nonestablishment candidates to reject Democrats with proven records to elect her. (To the county commission? No -- as one of their 2 U.S. SENATORS! ). Now she's taking money from Big Pharm and trying to keep us from adding medications with price controls to Medicare. This would NOT have happened if they'd elected a legislator with a proven record in office, instead of a deceiver. HUGE lesson.

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It will be a flop. LiberalFighter Sep 2021 #1
New book? Is this "new party" a way to get attention to his book? Bev54 Sep 2021 #17
Gee that's original ColinC Sep 2021 #2
Should have called it the Stumble Drunk Party rpannier Sep 2021 #36
Guessing it will pull votes away from the Democrats? left-of-center2012 Sep 2021 #3
Most likely Rebl2 Sep 2021 #11
I hope this goes nowhere. It can only divert Democratic votes. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2021 #4
Ranked choice voting is the key questionseverything Sep 2021 #5
Yes. The system is rigged against 3rd parties. Without something like ranked choice... PoliticAverse Sep 2021 #7
Or, untried candidates can harness ignorance and confusion Hortensis Sep 2021 #28
Keep the ego alive. n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2021 #6
Should have done like Liebermann rpannier Sep 2021 #37
Well, at least he'll be assured of their presidential nomination. calguy Sep 2021 #8
Open primaries, wouldn't it be kick if he lost the primaries for his party? marie999 Sep 2021 #12
send $$ nt msongs Sep 2021 #9
THIS ⬆️ $$$ Does he have his 501C4 PAC running? Budi Sep 2021 #10
I have lost all respect for this man. Mickju Sep 2021 #13
Same here. Owl Sep 2021 #35
The Ahn Cheol Soo of the United States rpannier Sep 2021 #38
Interesting SmittyWerben Sep 2021 #14
This means he no longer is a Democrat, just another loser JohnSJ Sep 2021 #15
Nader, Stein, Turner, Yang... NurseJackie Sep 2021 #16
Good one jackie JohnSJ Sep 2021 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Rebl2 Sep 2021 #18
You think... he is... NurseJackie Sep 2021 #25
Let the fundraising begin dlk Sep 2021 #19
This guy..... Sapient Donkey Sep 2021 #21
I have another name for it... Mawspam2 Sep 2021 #22
Oh, yes. Divide progressives into two parties. That always works. n/t pnwmom Sep 2021 #23
He will get Republican money Wolf Frankula Sep 2021 #24
Exactly. NurseJackie Sep 2021 #26
Isn't there already a large organized party he could work within to promote his ideas and concepts? NBachers Sep 2021 #27
Thumbs Way down ToxMarz Sep 2021 #29
Instant pariah OneCrazyDiamond Sep 2021 #30
He should call it the "crumbs for the peasants" party. Crowman2009 Sep 2021 #31
Instead of "Forward march!!!!" it'll be "Forward party!!!!!" Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2021 #32
Maybe he'll pull in the Rogan voters rpannier Sep 2021 #39
Ugh. ShazzieB Sep 2021 #33
"Ranked-choice voting and open primaries." --- NO! NurseJackie Sep 2021 #34
I may be wrong but... lonely bird Sep 2021 #40
Was the "Vanity Party" already taken? How out the "Ego Party" FSogol Sep 2021 #41
Seeing the Backside of the Forward Party LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #42
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