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Mon Sep 27, 2021, 04:22 PM

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Tribe wins major step toward resuming whaling off Washington [View all] Omaha Steve Sep 2021 OP

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as long as they use the same tools they used 500 yrs ago in keeping with ancestors nt msongs Sep 2021 #2

Yeah, no I still don't like it ... Hugh_Lebowski Sep 2021 #4

Tools used 500 years ago prolong the pain and suffering of whales selected for hunting. Calista241 Sep 2021 #8

They don't, so I don't know where the appeal to "tradition" comes from. They are using boats with LT Barclay Sep 2021 #69

Good. H2O Man Sep 2021 #3

Just because you can hunt doesn't mean you should hunt OnlinePoker Sep 2021 #5

We can start with the "tradition" of colonization of Indigenous people. Cobalt Violet Sep 2021 #14

It's done and there's no going back from that. OnlinePoker Sep 2021 #15

Nothing is "done" about it. You won't take their culture. Cobalt Violet Sep 2021 #16

Can you hear me now The Jungle 1 Sep 2021 #22

They're not commercial opportunists. Cobalt Violet Sep 2021 #24

It's extremely offensive to call them barbaric. Cobalt Violet Sep 2021 #25

Would it be barbaric Jakes Progress Sep 2021 #32

With all due respect... Happy Hoosier Sep 2021 #53

The Makah did indeed take their territory from another tribe. maxsolomon Sep 2021 #89

There have been gaps in whaling of almost a generation at least twice. They've had to dig around to LT Barclay Sep 2021 #70

The laws are the same for everyone treestar Sep 2021 #75

Standing on top of a whale carcass Submariner Sep 2021 #6

Exactly Owl Sep 2021 #21

How Supreme of you to judge everyone else's culture. Cobalt Violet Sep 2021 #28

I spent a career speaking for those very few that can't defend themselves Submariner Sep 2021 #30

How "supreme" of you Jakes Progress Sep 2021 #33

Some cultural practices were brutal then and are brutal now and can be judged so. EX500rider Sep 2021 #45

Is any action justifiable if it can be defended as a "Cultural" practice? Happy Hoosier Sep 2021 #54

I was about to go with genital mutilation as well Sympthsical Oct 2021 #101

Some are more advanced treestar Sep 2021 #76

Yes nt XanaDUer2 Sep 2021 #55

At what point in history did this tribe start "whooping and hollering?" Jose Garcia Oct 2021 #100

how do they use it in culture? onethatcares Sep 2021 #7

They use every part of it jmowreader Sep 2021 #11

thank you onethatcares Sep 2021 #18

Yes, it's done in the summer jmowreader Sep 2021 #43

I don't believe the Makah are allowing any outsiders on their Reservation, period. maxsolomon Sep 2021 #88

That was in the past. The last kill was not so and much of the meat rotted. LT Barclay Sep 2021 #71

How about other "ancient practices". Jakes Progress Sep 2021 #9

howabout howabout howabout howabout Cobalt Violet Sep 2021 #17

Deflect if you can't answer the question radicalleft Sep 2021 #19

Well let me help with some of my stupid musings. The Jungle 1 Sep 2021 #23

The headline to your post is apt. Jakes Progress Sep 2021 #38

You call it slaughter they call it culture. The Jungle 1 Sep 2021 #49

Funny Im vegan and I defend Indigenous rights to hunt/eat/exist as they chose. Cobalt Violet Sep 2021 #60

So. Jakes Progress Sep 2021 #66

You have a low opinion of them. Jakes Progress Sep 2021 #65

You do not want to have a reasonable conversation or answer a simple question. The Jungle 1 Sep 2021 #72

How is your diatribe reasonable? Jakes Progress Sep 2021 #74

Simple yes or no do you eat meat? The Jungle 1 Sep 2021 #81

You are quite uniformed Jakes Progress Sep 2021 #96

Why? treestar Sep 2021 #77

Wow. Just so eloquent. Jakes Progress Sep 2021 #34

It is indeed barbaric and disgusting. Owl Sep 2021 #27

are you a carnivore? Cobalt Violet Sep 2021 #58

Wonder why no one will answer that question? The Jungle 1 Sep 2021 #73

I will! I don't eat meat. Whaling is barbaric. It is not OK for ANYONE to do it. nt Coventina Sep 2021 #84

OK thanks for your answer The Jungle 1 Sep 2021 #85

Yes, I think all animal "harvesting" i.e. slaughter should end. Coventina Sep 2021 #87

Why would you say that. The Jungle 1 Sep 2021 #91

You are defending "culture." Well, FGM is a cultural practice. Coventina Sep 2021 #93

Well um The Jungle 1 Sep 2021 #94

The Jains have survived for thousands of years by Coventina Sep 2021 #95

We do have areas of agreement. The Jungle 1 Sep 2021 #97

I do agree we should bring back the natural predators. shrike3 Oct 2021 #105

Yes. Consuming a plentiful domestic animal specifically raised for meat is different shrike3 Oct 2021 #104

Men wanted for hazardous sea duty. Wolf Frankula Sep 2021 #10

When I lived in Whidbey Island, I learned a good bit about the Makah... SKKY Sep 2021 #12

Like it or not... caraher Sep 2021 #13

If you want to live in the past, forsake the present bucolic_frolic Sep 2021 #20

this is their present culture. Cobalt Violet Sep 2021 #26

I think they are more capable than you do. Jakes Progress Sep 2021 #35

It's. their. diet. They don't have to eat what settlers dictate they eat. Cobalt Violet Sep 2021 #39

"They don't have to eat what settlers dictate they eat." EX500rider Sep 2021 #46

they're colonists. Cobalt Violet Sep 2021 #47

Well since American tribes all came from Asia so are they. EX500rider Sep 2021 #50

No they didn't. They where here. Cobalt Violet Sep 2021 #57

There were here since their ancestors came over from Asia. EX500rider Sep 2021 #61

"There were here since their ancestors came over from Asia." jcmaine72 Sep 2021 #63

So they have starved for the last couple of decades? Jakes Progress Sep 2021 #64

Another treaty the U.S. was violating ripcord Sep 2021 #29

I don't think there's an essential use for whale oil anymore. JohnnyRingo Sep 2021 #31

you're wrong about that. Cobalt Violet Sep 2021 #41

Wrong about what? JohnnyRingo Sep 2021 #56

Nope. Not okay Mz Pip Sep 2021 #36

Like the culture of this Settler Colony called the USA? Cobalt Violet Sep 2021 #40

So you're okay with this. Mz Pip Sep 2021 #62

Anything can be called a cultural or religious tradition. Jakes Progress Sep 2021 #37

To the world's Hindus, my cheeseburger addiction would appear barbaric NickB79 Sep 2021 #42

The horns of a dilemma... brooklynite Sep 2021 #44

If only colonizers got upset about the Indigenous women murdered. Cobalt Violet Sep 2021 #48

So, as long as someone oppressed me, I can oppress someone else? brooklynite Sep 2021 #51

Ah. The straw man argument. Sure sign of having lost. Jakes Progress Sep 2021 #67

All this did before in the 90s MFM008 Sep 2021 #52

This thread brings me great joy GusBob Sep 2021 #59

Dead whales bring me no joy. Mosby Sep 2021 #92

I remember reading about this years ago, and Makah women said it was a man thing. betsuni Sep 2021 #68

Thanks for the insight. Nt XanaDUer2 Sep 2021 #78

Live and let live. Steelrolled Sep 2021 #79

No. jeffreyi Sep 2021 #80

Nobody needs to hunt whales. Not even Native Americans leftyladyfrommo Sep 2021 #82

Humans do all sorts of cruel things in the name of culture XanaDUer2 Sep 2021 #83

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I hope the tribe members come to realize the cruelty of killing whales Mysterian Sep 2021 #98

Most of us don't have an issue with the killing of animals . Kaleva Oct 2021 #102

Mankind is rapidly depopulating the world of wildlife, including whales Mysterian Oct 2021 #103

Kick nt XanaDUer2 Sep 2021 #99