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Red Mountain

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17. I don't think that directly contradicts Biden
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 04:05 PM
Sep 2021

The reason we could get away with much lower troop levels was the agreement Trump made for us to leave. Breaking that agreement would have meant a return to much higher troop levels. How high would depend on how poorly the Taliban took our backing out of the agreement.


8500? (2019)

14000? (2018)

More?

https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/FP_20200825_afganistan_index.pdf


The General suggested keeping some troops in Afghanistan......but not enough to conduct widespread operations. It was, I think, arguably bad advice.

Keeping too few troops in country was never a good option. It was a false choice.

Biden's real choices were escalate in the hope of forcing the Taliban to concede in negotiations (unlikely to stick when they don't feel coerced) or get out. No third way available whether it's 2500, 250 or 10 troops.




Sorry Generals Trump signed up for a complete withdrawal Ritabert Sep 2021 #1
Good point padah513 Sep 2021 #2
I'm pretty sure the military was confident that they could get Trump to back down. Bleacher Creature Sep 2021 #4
He bragged about it.... BradAllison Sep 2021 #20
+1 -K&R onetexan Sep 2021 #40
This is soooooo damn boring. nt DURHAM D Sep 2021 #3
Don't care, only care about health care, infrastructure, education, climate change. Jon King Sep 2021 #5
All true..... HOWEVER this will become a huge GQP talking point for the next 3 years groundloop Sep 2021 #21
Well, it sounds like Republicans want to let the generals make foreign policy... TheRealNorth Sep 2021 #23
Hmmm. Not about that at all Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2021 #52
Doesn't matter, anything can be a GQP talking pt onetexan Sep 2021 #41
Yup. You are right. It doesn't really matter whether any of us here Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2021 #54
Oh great, this will be all over 24/7 hibbing Sep 2021 #6
can someone tell me why this is news? guyfromla Sep 2021 #7
Remind me who appoints the Secretary in charge of the "military industrial complex"... brooklynite Sep 2021 #18
+1 Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2021 #53
So now the MSM is going to go all out grumpyduck Sep 2021 #8
Yes, because MSM and MIC corporate board wnylib Sep 2021 #38
Because Biden's hands were tied because of Trump deal with the Taliban had 2 choices: Botany Sep 2021 #9
Really sick of this shit. hamsterjill Sep 2021 #10
This is a bullshit LIE lapfog_1 Sep 2021 #11
Most likely UnderThisLaw Sep 2021 #47
Huh? Mike Nelson Sep 2021 #12
Politico trying to stir up conflict again with sloppy reporting. nt IronLionZion Sep 2021 #14
Well... Mike Nelson Sep 2021 #19
Consider the source. I never read Politico any more. wnylib Sep 2021 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author Zorro Sep 2021 #13
Have no doubt the generals said we needed more troops there, especially during withdrawal. Hoyt Sep 2021 #15
Here is the transcript of what Biden said to Stephanopolous. Jon King Sep 2021 #16
I don't think that directly contradicts Biden Red Mountain Sep 2021 #17
It's confusing to me. I heard them say that if we left troops in country after August 1st they PaulRevere08 Sep 2021 #25
Exactly TheRealNorth Sep 2021 #26
Hey....is anyone surprised????? Hulk Sep 2021 #22
Well Put Hulk DanieRains Sep 2021 #31
And one minute past the withdrawal deadline, the Taliban would have lit them up NickB79 Sep 2021 #24
But wars generate clicks for the MSM... TheRealNorth Sep 2021 #27
Exactly they would be bait.... Historic NY Sep 2021 #32
Glad Politico snowybirdie Sep 2021 #28
yawn ColinC Sep 2021 #29
OK, they can parse Biden's words here not fooled Sep 2021 #30
Democrats Get Attacked For Not Being Perfect While The GOP Is Basically A Terrorist Organization DanieRains Sep 2021 #33
You have to look at how videohead5 Sep 2021 #34
The Republican Senators were baiting the Generals throughout the hearing Zorro Sep 2021 #35
Of course it will become a Repug talking point, so what. Voters care about other stuff. Jon King Sep 2021 #36
butt-covering Slammer Sep 2021 #37
Even MORE TROOPS would likely die if we left some there. TeamProg Sep 2021 #42
Thank God we have a POTUS Cryptoad Sep 2021 #43
Later on in the hearing they said that keeping them there past the end of August wouldn't have.... George II Sep 2021 #44
Top generals tried to convince JFK.... paleotn Sep 2021 #45
Their Comments are Noted Roy Rolling Sep 2021 #46
So what? Hell with them. marble falls Sep 2021 #48
More troops? For longer? To what end? Grins Sep 2021 #49
Generals: What would be your goals and what would you accomplish by staying? keithbvadu2 Sep 2021 #50
The outcome would had been worse if they didn't do the withdrawal. LiberalFighter Sep 2021 #51
Problem is though Trump started it already and the Republicans in the House and Senate are cstanleytech Sep 2021 #55
Amazing how it seems a press who has essentially ignored Afghanistan for years, no is so concerned JohnSJ Sep 2021 #56
The Generals didn't want to kill the cash cow Dopers_Greed Sep 2021 #57
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