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In reply to the discussion: U.S. investigators increasingly confident directed-energy attacks behind Havana Syndrome [View all]stillcool
(34,407 posts)2. Sometimes I don't think the CIA knows what they know
this was a good article from a while back
The Mystery of the Immaculate Concussion
https://www.gq.com/story/cia-investigation-and-russian-microwave-attacks
He was a senior CIA official tasked with getting tough on Russia. Then, one night in Moscow, Marc Polymeropoulos's life changed forever. He says he was hit with a mysterious weapon, joining dozens of American diplomats and spies who believe theyve been targeted with this secret device all over the worldand even at home, on U.S. soil. Now, as a CIA investigation points the blame at Russia, the victims are left wondering why so little is being done to help them.
BY JULIA IOFFE
October 19, 2020
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The notion of weaponizing microwaves dates back to the Cold War, when, in 1961, an American biologist named Allan Frey discovered that irradiating a human head with microwaves could produce the sensation of soundeven in deaf ears, even from thousands of feet away. Playing with the frequency and intensity of the microwave beam could produce a range of different sensations in a person. In 2018, Frey told the New York Times that the Soviets took immediate notice of his work and flew him to Moscow, where they squired him around secret military facilities and asked him to give lectures about the effects of microwaves on the brain.
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In the meantime, a team was assembled at Langley to investigate the incidents overseas. Investigators came to believe that the injuries to victims brains were caused by a microwave weapon, which could be beamed at its target through walls and windows, and could even be effective from a couple miles away. Given the work Polymeropoulos and his team had been doing to thwart the Russians since 2017, and the fact that much of the scientific literature on the biological effects of microwaves had been published in the Soviet Union and Russia, it seemed plausible to the investigators that the Russians could be behind this.
The most compelling evidence, however, came from publicly available data. As has been widely reported, mobile phones track peoples movements, and location-data companies accumulate this information and sell it. Using this sort of data, CIA investigators were able to deduce the whereabouts of Russian agents, and place them in close physical proximity to the CIA officers at the time they had been attacked when they were in Poland, Georgia, Australia, and Taiwan. In each case, individuals believed to be FSB agents were within range of the CIA officers who had been hit in 2019. In two of the incidents, location data apparently showed FSB agents in the same hotel at the same time their targets experienced the onset of symptoms.
https://www.gq.com/story/cia-investigation-and-russian-microwave-attacks
He was a senior CIA official tasked with getting tough on Russia. Then, one night in Moscow, Marc Polymeropoulos's life changed forever. He says he was hit with a mysterious weapon, joining dozens of American diplomats and spies who believe theyve been targeted with this secret device all over the worldand even at home, on U.S. soil. Now, as a CIA investigation points the blame at Russia, the victims are left wondering why so little is being done to help them.
BY JULIA IOFFE
October 19, 2020
========
The notion of weaponizing microwaves dates back to the Cold War, when, in 1961, an American biologist named Allan Frey discovered that irradiating a human head with microwaves could produce the sensation of soundeven in deaf ears, even from thousands of feet away. Playing with the frequency and intensity of the microwave beam could produce a range of different sensations in a person. In 2018, Frey told the New York Times that the Soviets took immediate notice of his work and flew him to Moscow, where they squired him around secret military facilities and asked him to give lectures about the effects of microwaves on the brain.
=====================================
In the meantime, a team was assembled at Langley to investigate the incidents overseas. Investigators came to believe that the injuries to victims brains were caused by a microwave weapon, which could be beamed at its target through walls and windows, and could even be effective from a couple miles away. Given the work Polymeropoulos and his team had been doing to thwart the Russians since 2017, and the fact that much of the scientific literature on the biological effects of microwaves had been published in the Soviet Union and Russia, it seemed plausible to the investigators that the Russians could be behind this.
The most compelling evidence, however, came from publicly available data. As has been widely reported, mobile phones track peoples movements, and location-data companies accumulate this information and sell it. Using this sort of data, CIA investigators were able to deduce the whereabouts of Russian agents, and place them in close physical proximity to the CIA officers at the time they had been attacked when they were in Poland, Georgia, Australia, and Taiwan. In each case, individuals believed to be FSB agents were within range of the CIA officers who had been hit in 2019. In two of the incidents, location data apparently showed FSB agents in the same hotel at the same time their targets experienced the onset of symptoms.
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U.S. investigators increasingly confident directed-energy attacks behind Havana Syndrome [View all]
reACTIONary
Oct 2021
OP
That's a standard type of microwave device that produces an effect like that of a microwave oven...
PoliticAverse
Oct 2021
#7
That was originally "Wuhan virus", named for it's first apparent outbreak location...
PoliticAverse
Oct 2021
#39
What about extremely loud ultrasonic or infrasonic sound waves? ("loud" if they could be heard)
LudwigPastorius
Oct 2021
#21
The problem is, that some sort of "Havana syndrome" is so unlikely as to defy belief.
PoindexterOglethorpe
Oct 2021
#13
There was a recent article in the nypost that said it was crickets. (link below)
Gore1FL
Oct 2021
#15
Ever since at least the BushCheney era, we civilians in the US have been regaled with stories of...
Hekate
Oct 2021
#18
Some of the responses show an igrnorance of the possibility of phased-array beamforming ...
eppur_se_muova
Oct 2021
#22
As a lot of you have already said, this is old science and is not difficult to build
infullview
Oct 2021
#26
I read some reports that said some instances could be pesticide poisoning
womanofthehills
Oct 2021
#34