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17. As an "Independent" will he caucus with the Democrats or the GOP? I wonder which Republican...

Wed Oct 20, 2021, 01:41 PM

Oct 2021

As an "Independent" will he caucus with the Democrats or the GOP? I wonder which Republican the voters in West Virginia will choose next to take his place.

I've always advised that although Manchin isn't perfect, we should COUNT OUR BLESSINGS and just be THANKFUL that his presence and his affiliation with the Democrats gives us a 50/50 "majority" in the Senate.

I also advised that the continual harassment and denigration and name-calling and attempts at public humiliation would not have the desired effects and would likely backfire.

Those tactics are frequently the ones that only cause someone (like Manchin) to "dig-in-his-heels" and be less willing to compromise and find common ground.

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SCOOP: Manchin Tells Associates He's Considering Leaving the Democratic Party and Has an Exit Plan [View all] demmiblue Oct 2021 OP

Thank you, Maine. deurbano Oct 2021 #1

I have trouble believing the polls were so wrong about Collins IronLionZion Oct 2021 #5

Remember this Phrase: Defund the Police. SmittyWerben Oct 2021 #21

An often misunderstood concept IronLionZion Oct 2021 #26

"If you're explaining, you're losing". nt oasis Oct 2021 #88

Explain that to our party IronLionZion Oct 2021 #97

It doesn't have to be explained... reACTIONary Oct 2021 #118

+100 nt ... reACTIONary Oct 2021 #117

Sad that is the world we live in 2Gingersnaps Oct 2021 #127

This was another meme laid on Dems by the right cilla4progress Oct 2021 #31

Exactly! 2Gingersnaps Oct 2021 #128

Two former GOP senators from Georgia would disagree. Nt Fiendish Thingy Oct 2021 #68

It didn't fwdthinkingdem Oct 2021 #84

I watched many ads run by rethugs telling folks the dems want to defund the police SmittyWerben Oct 2021 #105

Thats not why we loss seats... fwdthinkingdem Oct 2021 #122

Just like this sudden assault on school boards is new. 2Gingersnaps Oct 2021 #129

effective because we let 15000 unchallenged coordinated radio stations repeat it, many other lies certainot Oct 2021 #101

So what do you think happened? Polybius Oct 2021 #23

bad/lazy polling and possibly low turnout from our side IronLionZion Oct 2021 #28

Trump brought in a lot of non-voters who voted Republican down-ticket. Ace Rothstein Oct 2021 #44

I think you Aced that observation. mjvpi Oct 2021 #102

LOL. I see what you did there. Ace Rothstein Oct 2021 #104

Then why didn't they vote for him? Polybius Oct 2021 #130

From the horses mouth: NoNobigwick Oct 2021 #90

I'm not pushing anything. No matter what, he and his Arizona colleague are holding the will of deurbano Oct 2021 #103

Of course, but NoNobigwick Oct 2021 #114

I didn't suggest Manchin is leaving the party. I responded to that suggestion with three words that deurbano Oct 2021 #115

Damn! The man is drunk on his own power. Not a good American at all Walleye Oct 2021 #2

We're all weeping. rickyhall Oct 2021 #3

And give control of the Senate to Moscow Mitch IronLionZion Oct 2021 #4

I'm sure both he and his daughter did some criming. Time to prosecute if there were any of them. TheBlackAdder Oct 2021 #29

I don't know, are you referring to the Epipen debacle? FakeNoose Oct 2021 #83

That's a pretty sweet deal for her IronLionZion Oct 2021 #99

Evil motherfucker. (nt) Paladin Oct 2021 #6

And all so he can help to kill off the supportive capacity of the planet w/Fossil Fuels and Joe ... Botany Oct 2021 #7

He is enjoying all of this immensely. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #8

So the difference between Dem qazplm135 Oct 2021 #9

Remember, this is a 10-year figure. So, it's only $15B (2% of the military budget alone.) PSPS Oct 2021 #79

If you look at WV, him changing party would be the end of his political career rpannier Oct 2021 #108

Independent No one wants you packman Oct 2021 #10

I want him. He's the BEST we can hope for out of West Virginia. I'll TAKE IT!! TYVM! NurseJackie Oct 2021 #58

This! (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Oct 2021 #107

Disagreeing with Manchin is fine, but when it results in name-calling, etc. it becomes JohnSJ Oct 2021 #11

This: CrispyQ Oct 2021 #16

Well, I'm gagging on what I'd LIKE to call him, but I won't... hlthe2b Oct 2021 #25

It isn't what we express that particularly matters, but for those in Congress to face the political JohnSJ Oct 2021 #39

Why Doesn't He Just Change To REpub & Get It Over With Me. Oct 2021 #12

Because he has more power than he will ever have. This is the highlight of his political JohnSJ Oct 2021 #19

Why would you want that? Why encourage that? NurseJackie Oct 2021 #24

It's Not That I Want It Me. Oct 2021 #36

The over-the-top "Manchin-hate" is counterproductive. NurseJackie Oct 2021 #50

As I Said Me. Oct 2021 #57

I think encouraging Manchin to "get it over with" is a mistake... NurseJackie Oct 2021 #60

To Be Clear...Telling Manchin Anything Will Not Have Any Effect Me. Oct 2021 #61

People should be careful what they wish for... even when said in anger and frustration. NurseJackie Oct 2021 #69

If he changes, his political career is over hvn_nbr_2 Oct 2021 #106

Because he has to think about how many votes he got from Republicans 2Gingersnaps Oct 2021 #131

I'm not so politically astute as many/most here, but I saw this coming weeks ago, at least.. HUAJIAO Oct 2021 #13

I'm surprised to learn that he was ever a Democrat in the first place. Orrex Oct 2021 #14

I am surprised he didn't call it the Democrat party like the pukes do. pwb Oct 2021 #15

I hope that doesn't happen. If all other things stayed the same and WV elected a Republican... NurseJackie Oct 2021 #22

How can a Democrat who voted for him vote for him again if pwb Oct 2021 #32

I think you know the answer to that. It's West Virginia... a very red state. NurseJackie Oct 2021 #45

With a lot of very pissed off progressives in it that are enraged at the position we're in. r�is�n_dubh Oct 2021 #85

That's the excuse we keep saying fwdthinkingdem Oct 2021 #86

Yes he does. You may want to lose the majority in the Senate, but I suspect most Democrats JohnSJ Oct 2021 #35

I never said any such thing? pwb Oct 2021 #40

You said he doesn't belong in the Democratic party. What does that exactly mean? JohnSJ Oct 2021 #43

Did I say Democrat party? pwb Oct 2021 #51

You probably won't believe it, but that was a typing mistake on my part. I never use JohnSJ Oct 2021 #56

I believe you. pwb Oct 2021 #59

Thanks, and yes we do agree on that JohnSJ Oct 2021 #65

As an "Independent" will he caucus with the Democrats or the GOP? I wonder which Republican... NurseJackie Oct 2021 #17

Blackmail is a terrible thing... dlk Oct 2021 #18

If true, it means that much of Pres. Biden's agenda is DOA until at least early 2023 inwiththenew Oct 2021 #20

There is no way we win in 2022 if nothing gets done in the next year. Ace Rothstein Oct 2021 #48

as a poker player, sometimes you have to decide if someone is bluffing, or is just really stupid. unblock Oct 2021 #27

Likely bluffing IronLionZion Oct 2021 #37

I suspect you are right, because he will never have more power than he does now, but this early JohnSJ Oct 2021 #46

Good bye and good riddance. LogicFirst Oct 2021 #30

Really? Why? If he caucuses with the GOP, will you feel the same way? NurseJackie Oct 2021 #53

i will say this, though: if he's going to prevent biden from passing anything meaningful, unblock Oct 2021 #33

He'll be a nobody in a party of one C_U_L8R Oct 2021 #34

I say take the win at $1.75 cilla4progress Oct 2021 #38

No. Until we have at least a two seat majority in the Senate, we don't have that luxury JohnSJ Oct 2021 #47

But what are our options? cilla4progress Oct 2021 #76

The only part of your post I am in disagreement with is kissing him goodbye. We can't do that JohnSJ Oct 2021 #78

I see... cilla4progress Oct 2021 #82

Caucusing my ass. He'll join the overseers on the established corporate plantation kleptocracy. ancianita Oct 2021 #41

Leave the D Party? How will we ever know? Grins Oct 2021 #42

You will know when McConnell takes control of the Senate. How's that? NurseJackie Oct 2021 #55

How long has Mitch known about this? bucolic_frolic Oct 2021 #49

There moniss Oct 2021 #52

Just rumors, but Dawson Leery Oct 2021 #54

Seriously! hamsterjill Oct 2021 #73

Biden's "promise to bring people together" is fulfilled in the Build Back Better package muriel_volestrangler Oct 2021 #62

Manchin denies story mcar Oct 2021 #63

Everyone is gonna ignore you post. WhoWoodaKnew Oct 2021 #124

I know, sigh. mcar Oct 2021 #125

I don't get it. What's the point? The plan can't pass without his vote anyway. Raven123 Oct 2021 #64

He has no chance of winning again videohead5 Oct 2021 #66

That's sure a funny way to announce your retirement in 2024. Fiendish Thingy Oct 2021 #67

Let him threaten. Mawspam2 Oct 2021 #70

Elsewhere online, I'm reading that what triggered this was the Sanders editorial... NurseJackie Oct 2021 #71

Depends on how you play it rpannier Oct 2021 #109

Hey Manchin defenders, explain to us again why he gives us a majority? Crowman2009 Oct 2021 #72

He doesn't give us a majority. He gives us an even 50/50 split. NurseJackie Oct 2021 #110

You need "Manchin defenders" to teach you to count to 50? FBaggins Oct 2021 #121

If true, OneCrazyDiamond Oct 2021 #74

From "The Hill": "Manchin on party switch: 'It's bull----'" JaneQPublic Oct 2021 #75

Me thinks he doth protest too much... BlueIdaho Oct 2021 #93

I really don't believe much of what he says. JaneQPublic Oct 2021 #94

At this point BlueIdaho Oct 2021 #98

Same with Sinema. (nt) JaneQPublic Oct 2021 #112

Too many idiots in government. Too many lies. Too much greed. n/t TeamProg Oct 2021 #77

Rat bastard. And this is all because of his personal wealth from coal. Vinca Oct 2021 #80

It's just a threat deizo Oct 2021 #81

Huh? BumRushDaShow Oct 2021 #96

When, and if that actually happens, I can safely relieve myself oasis Oct 2021 #87

Why is there two of these threads on the front page? LW1977 Oct 2021 #89

Been expecting this for a long time. sybylla Oct 2021 #91

Since he is already scuttling the entire Democratic agenda BlueIdaho Oct 2021 #92

Less than a year before the GOP retakes one or both houses TiberiusB Oct 2021 #113

You hit this one out of the park BlueIdaho Oct 2021 #119

Post removed Post removed Oct 2021 #95

Who do DownriverDem Oct 2021 #100

Hunh... LudwigPastorius Oct 2021 #111

On the Reidout, Corn is still sticking to his reporting LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2021 #116

I hope all Americans have an exit plan when the fascists take over for good. Doremus Oct 2021 #120

the repukes will take him for his vote but they will always hate him. Javaman Oct 2021 #123

I think by now we know this is bullshit Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2021 #126

Not entirely FBaggins Oct 2021 #132