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Peace Patriot

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39. Botched kidnapping seems unlikely. Seems like botched robbery, but...
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 12:52 PM
Oct 2012

...who knows? The attempt to grab his wife's purse (that apparently started the incident) could have been designed to misdirect police, if it was an assassination.

The article says that the assailants, after trying to grab her purse, shot Mockford FOUR times. That seems excessive for a mere street robbery with panicked (stupid or addled) robbers. Points to: making sure he was dead.

The white van may well have been a coincidence. The van crossed the Mockfords' path as they went to their car. May have been unrelated. Police are asking the van drivers to come forward. If unrelated, then they have two guys on foot, perpetrating this crime, and running to a motorcycle to escape afterwards. Did they get her purse? Article doesn't say. Did they get his wallet after shooting him? Unknown. If the object was robbery, and he resisted (defending his wife) and they shot him, what did they gain? The article is not enlightening.

In either case--botched kidnapping, or botched robbery--why shoot him? Very foolish kidnappers. Very foolish robbers. Kidnappers: You're not going to collect a ransom on a dead body. Robbers: Foiled or not, why escalate your crime? The police will double-down on a murder, especially such a high profile murder. If it was robbery, this indicates rank amateurs or first-time criminals (or maybe crazy or drug-addled criminals).

Anything can go wrong during the course of such a crime--including panicked criminals--whatever the motive. Considering who he was, I hope that the police are considering a sophisticated assassination that was designed to look like a street crime. I'd sure like to know if they got away with her purse or his wallet. It wouldn't be definitive (even sophisticated assassins or their operatives could have forgotten to complete the false narrative by making off with purse or wallet or jewelry) but it would help in understanding the crime.

On current information, kidnapping seems very unlikely. Robbery seems most likely (robbery by stupid, amateur and/or addled robbers). And sophisticated assassination is a possibility, considering who he was. On the latter, possible motives range very wide, and include personal motives (business or private).

Not enough known. And I would certainly not buy into an Associated Pukes narrative (or any of its details or quotes) until there are some independent, non-corporate sources on this crime. I've learned not to trust AP--and I'm so distrustful that I've given them that insulting new name. They are major disinformationists for the transglobal corporations and war profiteers who rule over us.

As for Mockford being an Exxon Mobil exec, I've learned, during my life, that there can be very good people caught up in very bad corporations and other entities. Life's circumstances don't always allow people to make an innocent living, and there can be a huge spectrum of knowledge, blindness and personal growth, in any individual case of anybody working in a corporation or other entity that is doing ill. Mockford, for all we know, was a whistleblower and was targeted by his own corporation. Don't judge people on their employment or other labels. And don't believe everything you read (or see on TV).

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It would not surprise me if it was a hit Drale Oct 2012 #1
That was exactly my first thought. nt Javaman Oct 2012 #13
if this was a "hit", then it certainly would have come from Blue_Tires Oct 2012 #18
Sounds like a hit, but probably not Exxon related naaman fletcher Oct 2012 #33
I always mourn for high-ranking oil company executives jsr Oct 2012 #2
No man is an island Kelvin Mace Oct 2012 #5
+1 toby jo Oct 2012 #9
Too late. The Stranger Oct 2012 #10
i can't see how becoming insensitive to the suffering of others Kelvin Mace Oct 2012 #12
Some have suffered so much more than others. The Stranger Oct 2012 #42
The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions of men (Iraq and coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #14
To me, it is all a tragedy Kelvin Mace Oct 2012 #16
I find myself strangely drawn to Stalin's (admittedly very black) coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #20
You are proposing that one cannot do both? Kelvin Mace Oct 2012 #22
Food for thought... lsewpershad Oct 2012 #27
Yes, unfortunately every American bears a huge karmic debt to the rest of the coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #37
Justice????? lsewpershad Oct 2012 #26
Yeah. Gunned down in front of his wife. Yay. (Sarcasm) Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #19
Yeah, seems a bit short-sighted Kelvin Mace Oct 2012 #23
Exactly. The Stranger Oct 2012 #43
Who 'celebrated' his death? jsr Oct 2012 #24
C'mon. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #30
I don't care about oil company executives. jsr Oct 2012 #31
It's nice to see such disregard for human life ChillZilla Oct 2012 #34
Reading comprehension FAIL jsr Oct 2012 #38
A guy got murdered ChillZilla Oct 2012 #46
Twain wrote that what we disregard often illustrates our character more so than what we do regard LanternWaste Oct 2012 #45
I wouldn't go so far as to say it was a hit, but NV Whino Oct 2012 #3
Is it starting?? Angry Dragon Oct 2012 #4
Paybacks are hell ...the rich will be creating more jobs ....security jobs. L0oniX Oct 2012 #6
Maybe!!!! nt valerief Oct 2012 #7
Sounds like a hit. Solly Mack Oct 2012 #8
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #11
I'm more surprised this doesn't happen all the time... firehorse Oct 2012 #15
Watch the movie "Manda Bala." nt raccoon Oct 2012 #32
The great Equalizer............ QUALITYCONTRoll Oct 2012 #17
I am suprised this does not happen more often musiclawyer Oct 2012 #21
A motorcycle *and* a van? WilliamPitt Oct 2012 #25
Could be ChillZilla Oct 2012 #35
What is interesting is that it took 12 days to get to the news (nt) The Straight Story Oct 2012 #28
Mockford, a British national living in Belgium, was shot dead on Oct. 14 GeorgeGist Oct 2012 #29
If it is terrorism daleo Oct 2012 #36
Botched kidnapping seems unlikely. Seems like botched robbery, but... Peace Patriot Oct 2012 #39
Yeah,let's execute all oil company executives. Fuck, let's torture the hell out of them first cali Oct 2012 #40
Agree 100% ChazII Oct 2012 #44
Tough one to solve with billions of suspects byeya Oct 2012 #41
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