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MichMan

(17,121 posts)
21. Let me explain it point by point
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 04:59 PM
Dec 2021

1) The Federal mandate only applies to large employers > 100, thus leaving out a significant portion of the population that either works for smaller employers, or isn't in the workforce at all. It would be much more effective if it applied to everyone and wasn't limited to a specific subset of the population. If it does get thrown out by the courts then it becomes a moot point.

2) The recent NYC mandate announced today would mirror the Federal mandate, but applies to all employers regardless of size. Still unclear how independent contractors and people working for themselves are covered, but again, it leaves out everyone who isn't in the labor force. Given that labor participation rates are in the low 60% range, that means that approx. 1/3 of people are exempted from these mandates.

3) The existing NYC mandates that require anyone participating in indoor dining, fitness, entertainment, & certain meeting spaces to be vaccinated would seemingly apply to a significant amount of the population that hasn't already been vaccinated.

So, what portion of the unvaccinated population will the new mandate by DeBlasio actually target ?

* People that are employed by private employers smaller than 100, who don't eat at restaurants, go to any indoor fitness activities, or watch any indoor entertainment. Perhaps that is a significant number of people, but I seriously doubt it.

Based on the above points, IMO, this new announcement is going to have a negligible effect on the vaccination rates.

The other question is how it will be enforced ? Is NYC planning on conducting raids of employers to make sure everyone is complying? I doubt it? How are they going to ensure that someone who is self employed painting houses, selling jewelry, repairing cars, doing plumbing/ electrical work, shoveling snow, or cutting grass is vaccinated under this law ?



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Doesn't NYC have a 95%+ vaccination rate as is? n/t Calista241 Dec 2021 #1
No BumRushDaShow Dec 2021 #8
So J&J recipients that only were required to get one shot, now have to have two? MichMan Dec 2021 #2
They are targeting that last percent BumRushDaShow Dec 2021 #5
How will this be enforced for independent contractors and the self employed? MichMan Dec 2021 #3
From another article, additional guidance is forthcoming for the smaller businesses BumRushDaShow Dec 2021 #6
To combat the spread of omicron. OneCrazyDiamond Dec 2021 #4
Same as Delta PSPS Dec 2021 #9
Omicron is apparently a faster spreader than Dellta BumRushDaShow Dec 2021 #11
The vaccines are more effective against delta. OneCrazyDiamond Dec 2021 #12
Fantastic! PTWB Dec 2021 #7
When do the proud boys show up with their guns to demand "freedumb?" PSPS Dec 2021 #10
Why does every mandate only apply to people with jobs ? MichMan Dec 2021 #13
Have you looked at how NYC is handling everyone else (phasing requirements in) BumRushDaShow Dec 2021 #14
If those restrictions are effective, then there is no need for the latest announcement, is there? MichMan Dec 2021 #15
It would cover many who you claimed weren't covered BumRushDaShow Dec 2021 #18
There is no discernable difference between "not being mandated" and "exempted from the mandate" MichMan Dec 2021 #19
What kind of argument are you trying to make? BumRushDaShow Dec 2021 #20
Let me explain it point by point MichMan Dec 2021 #21
Let me address your points BumRushDaShow Dec 2021 #22
How can you force someone without a job to get the vaccine? Polybius Dec 2021 #16
Are they getting unemployment or government assistance? Do they file city taxes ? MichMan Dec 2021 #17
Cross the border easily from Queens HockeyMom Dec 2021 #23
Depending on how bad any variant eventually gets (which I hope not at all) BumRushDaShow Dec 2021 #24
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