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happyslug

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25. And HOW was the Mayor to get the people out of the city???
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 11:59 PM
Oct 2012

From what I have read, the Mayor barely had the buses to get the people to the Shelters, if he had instead used those buses to evacuate people, it meant leaving people behind. Remember we are dealing with people who do NOT own a car, thus how do you get them out??? This same problem happened in New Orleans during Katrina, no one had a plan to get the people without cars out of New Orleans (Actually they was a plan, but depended on using School buses, buses that normally were stored on one of the lowest laying areas of New Orleans and were among the first thing flooded).

Sorry, every coastal city should have a plan to evacuate its citizens, including those without cars. Most don't for the buses they do have, are used to haul people from one end of town to the other, but makes several trips per day over the same route. During an evacuation, the buses gets filled once and then must go somewhere else with those passengers and at best it can come back the next day for another load of passengers. School buses can help, but most school buses haul 4-6 trips of children each day (most two trips, one for grade school, second for high school, some do three, Grade school, Middle School and High School) and like regular buses have to haul one load of passengers instead of the 2-3 it normally hauls. On top of this, a lot of people do NOT use either form of buses, i.e. they walk, and thus are additional load on the buses.

In simple terms, a city needs at least (and probably more) 3 to 5 times the regular buses it uses on a regular day, backed up by 3-5 number of school buses uses on a normal school day, to evacuate these people without cars. These excess buses have to come from somewhere and that is the job of the State for it can find those buses from Cities further inland and shipped them in. The Mayor has no authority of such outside buses, for they are outside his jurisdiction, but the Governor does for he has jurisdiction over the whole state.

Once you accept the fact you can NOT remove them from the city, then the best solution is to use those buses to get people to secure points, which is what the Mayor did. Yes, the better option would have been to remove them, but is seems that was NOT an option, given the resources of the Mayor and the City of Atlantic City.

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So much for "let the States handle it". louis-t Oct 2012 #1
Privatize Xipe Totec Oct 2012 #5
No, you are totally wrong here.... Swede Atlanta Oct 2012 #6
I agree with you...these people had plenty of warning adigal Oct 2012 #12
No pets (or at least minimal) in FL shelters ... funkhowser1 Oct 2012 #28
I think I heard that in this case... AngryOldDem Oct 2012 #31
NJ and NYC shelters were taking pets obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #37
I agree, too - you want to stay, you take your life in your hands wordpix Oct 2012 #45
I want him to not lie about Atlantic City and the Mayor Actionman Oct 2012 #16
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #21
Wow did you read the article? CitizenPatriot Oct 2012 #24
That's right blame the victims now. Read the fucking article! lonestarnot Oct 2012 #27
Thanks for the information Demsrule86 Oct 2012 #35
He's gonna busy himself eating cake and playing guitar and whooping it up with buddies now, kestrel91316 Oct 2012 #2
Everyone high and low, Dem and Rep has said to evacuate, with good reason Aerows Oct 2012 #10
So you think first responders should die going in now? adigal Oct 2012 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Aerows Oct 2012 #15
Hell no, and I never said that Aerows Oct 2012 #17
I'm sorry, I misunderstood nt adigal Oct 2012 #48
Aerows said the OPPOSITE of that obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #38
Not gonna hit on Christie for this, and he is right to be critical of Atlantic City's officials Mr.Turnip Oct 2012 #3
I agree Samjm Oct 2012 #7
Yep Aerows Oct 2012 #11
Totally agree. AngryOldDem Oct 2012 #30
Except that Christie is lying. Langford DID order the evacuation of Atlantic City days ago. riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #43
I agree - he acted responsibly and backed our president to boot. TBF Oct 2012 #52
back side looks dry modrepub Oct 2012 #4
I agree with him Aerows Oct 2012 #8
Yep johnc411 Oct 2012 #22
And HOW was the Mayor to get the people out of the city??? happyslug Oct 2012 #25
Here's an idea: cancel school 2 days before the megasuperholyshitstorm makes landfall? AtheistCrusader Oct 2012 #29
Does the Mayor have that Authority? In most Cities he does NOT. happyslug Oct 2012 #49
You would think Christie would have sent some help in the form of buses...and all Demsrule86 Oct 2012 #36
I suspect it has less to do with race, then money. happyslug Oct 2012 #50
Except that Christie is lying. Langford DID order the evacuation of Atlantic City days ago. riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #44
Hurricane Sandy: Calm before storm in New Jersey QUALITYCONTRoll Oct 2012 #9
Check out the picture of brigantine? adigal Oct 2012 #14
You didn't hear Christy refuse to help Actionman Oct 2012 #18
No one ever refuses to help Aerows Oct 2012 #19
i heard chris this morning on the radio... madrchsod Oct 2012 #20
many don't drive or have resources to leave Demsrule86 Oct 2012 #39
Atlantic city only takes up 17 square miles, one could walk snooper2 Oct 2012 #47
Walk where? Thus the shelters happyslug Oct 2012 #51
He's absolutely right on this point. Zynx Oct 2012 #23
I keep thinking of an older lady I saw on the weekend news. AngryOldDem Oct 2012 #32
He is right. There are people who were told to evacuate, warned over and over, and still refused. NYC Liberal Oct 2012 #26
No, He's Not Right RobinA Oct 2012 #33
He could have done better. Demsrule86 Oct 2012 #41
They are on their own obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #42
But what about those who were unable to heed the warnings? Brigid Oct 2012 #34
Mayor was on TODAY this morning - and was PISSED! hexola Oct 2012 #40
100% right on this - lynne Oct 2012 #46
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