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25. it has to be more than that cause some commit murder and some do not- otherwise

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 01:05 PM

Oct 2012

there should be a whole slew of 12yos on trial for all sorts of adult crimes and i know that it happens however if all 12yo's are literally not capable of making any decision with long-term consequences why do some know enough to not commit them? could it be that some kids are "wired&quot not deliberately) to be bad kids who grow up to be bad adults?
oh btw the name comes from the fact that 1. i live in ohio 2. ive voted a straight dem ticket for the last 40 years

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US boy appeals prison sentence imposed at age 12 [View all] Judi Lynn Oct 2012 OP

The prosecutors must have gotten a good chuckle over how easy it was to trick a 12 year old. Chemisse Oct 2012 #1

trick? doubt he was tricked into anything -his lawyer made sure he understood was he was agreeing to leftyohiolib Oct 2012 #2

A 12-year-old is simply not equipped to make life-impacting decisions. Chemisse Oct 2012 #3

I think the life impacting decision was made when Heather MC Oct 2012 #4

wow, the downright fascist sentiments expressed in this subthread are amazing. Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #6

Or maybe we could let them start to vote at 12! midnight Oct 2012 #9

And drink and drive and have sex and obviously sign binding contracts. Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #10

why underestimate a 12 year olds ability to be evil. Heather MC Oct 2012 #20

so, another vote for execution of 12 year olds? Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #22

So then, should sexual activity with 12yr olds be legalized? Hugabear Oct 2012 #24

Isn't that approximately what David letterman suggested about the Palin kid? Maybe it was 14, 24601 Oct 2012 #37

I agree with you completely Bo Nov 2012 #46

????????????????????/ greiner3 Oct 2012 #16

"A 12-year-old is simply not equipped to make life-impacting decisions" do you mean like murder leftyohiolib Oct 2012 #12

No, what they mean is that the physical structures of the brain dealing with future consequences Occulus Oct 2012 #21

it has to be more than that cause some commit murder and some do not- otherwise leftyohiolib Oct 2012 #25

And he didn't make a very good decision, did he? Chemisse Oct 2012 #40

Great. A twelve year old is able to understand all these consequence. How do you figure? .... marble falls Oct 2012 #26

The questions I have is: christx30 Oct 2012 #34

You're right about one thing. The dead person will still be dead. But there's no reason .. marble falls Oct 2012 #38

So basically you are talking about revenge. Chemisse Oct 2012 #41

So should christx30 Oct 2012 #44

I would order him held in a juvenile detention center until he is 18. Chemisse Oct 2012 #45

Well said. nt cstanleytech Nov 2012 #47

Paul Henry Gingerich's Case Background Judi Lynn Oct 2012 #5

As deeply disturbing as this story is Crunchy Frog Oct 2012 #14

This brings up some important questions davidpdx Oct 2012 #7

As the boy is a minor michreject Oct 2012 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author KatyMan Oct 2012 #11

If you don't understand by 12 that killing is wrong, I doubt you will ever learn that. hobbit709 Oct 2012 #13

Sure, but that doesn't mean he should be tried as an adult. Quantess Oct 2012 #17

so then you would agree that 12 year olds should be tried as adults Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #18

I said he should have been tried for murder hobbit709 Oct 2012 #30

"Even if tried as a juvenile, he still should do 25." Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #32

What do you think the penalty for murder should be? hobbit709 Oct 2012 #35

There have been cases involving 5 year olds. 25 years for them as well? Chemisse Oct 2012 #42

What is the precise degree of its wrong-ness and on what objective measure is that based? LanternWaste Oct 2012 #31

Some further details of the case. Crunchy Frog Oct 2012 #15

the kid who talked him into it only got 30 years (last five on probation) renate Oct 2012 #23

15 year old with crackpot scheme to run away and make riches, kills abusive step-father on the way. ieoeja Oct 2012 #29

So was the man was already dead from the other bullet wounds? Chemisse Oct 2012 #43

Indiana - at the forefront of the effort to lead us back to the 12th Century - n/t coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #19

With Democratic Underground not being far behind Crunchy Frog Oct 2012 #39

So I wasn't hallucinating! :) - n/t coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #49

way to many years for a 12 yr old who was bullied into 'helping' the 15 yr old Sunlei Oct 2012 #27

12 years old Sadie5 Oct 2012 #28

Unfortunately argiel1234 Oct 2012 #33

Many ADULTS don't get 25 years! Si MC Oct 2012 #36

It is my understanding that the boy was 10 years of age when the killing was done, lumpy Nov 2012 #48