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Crepuscular

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Wed Dec 29, 2021, 10:08 AM
Dec 2021

As previous posters have pointed out, Greta is great at identifying threats and casting blame but has failed utterly at providing any tangible solutions. Society can't simply snap its fingers and realize the utopian world that she is calling for.

Joe has to operate in the real world, where competing factions, both within and outside of our country, dictate the rate and degree of change which can realistically be achieved. To say that Joe is not a leader in pushing for change, shows a naivete often expressed by zealots.

If Greta wants to really walk the walk, I'd encourage her to go to Beijing and start publicly condemning China and the Xi regime and calling for their overthrow, as they are the primary driving force behind the threat to our climate. Much easier to sit back in Europe and throw verbal bombs at Joe and the U.S., count me unimpressed.

Greta, meet the Republican Party. dem4decades Dec 2021 #1
+100 Ya got that right! nt abqtommy Dec 2021 #8
I think she is too much in her own bubble, she doesn't recognize Allie's when they are staring her JohnSJ Dec 2021 #10
I think she's got some bad lines of code... VarryOn Dec 2021 #17
Probably knows US politics about as much as you know her country's politics AllTooEasy Dec 2021 #40
You're most certainly correct. I never took a Sweden civics course.... VarryOn Dec 2021 #71
+1 betsuni Dec 2021 #37
No, Meet Joe Manchin AllTooEasy Dec 2021 #39
Really? He's one person in the Senate. There's 50 Republicans locked in unison. dem4decades Dec 2021 #52
Republicans didn't stop him from cancelling Line 3 permits. Cobalt Violet Dec 2021 #42
Let the Biden bashing begin! George II Dec 2021 #2
Hell, I'll bash her for not being particularly bright. JohnSJ Dec 2021 #4
She's not wrong though. He opened 80 million new acres for drilling. NullTuples Dec 2021 #20
The BBB bill puts alternative energy initiatives in direct opposition to the carbon... brush Dec 2021 #27
You can't just cut off fossil fuels without having an alternative ready to go. That is why fuel JohnSJ Dec 2021 #30
absolutely cab67 Dec 2021 #61
Yet without her the leftmost voice would be what? NullTuples Dec 2021 #70
Greta is Swedish, not American, and likely knows as much about US politics as I know about Swedish.. AllTooEasy Dec 2021 #38
She is effectively saying Biden is part of the problem. Most Europeans are not as naive JohnSJ Dec 2021 #46
+1 betsuni Dec 2021 #47
She is extremely bright and knowledgeable. She brings clarity and a no bullshit message to what is Magoo48 Dec 2021 #63
Obviously Ms. Thunberg's strategy is to alienate those who could actually help make things better. JohnSJ Dec 2021 #3
.... Obviously Thunberg doesn't have a "CLUE" according to Stu. Stuart G Dec 2021 #5
It is like cutting one's nose off to spike one's face JohnSJ Dec 2021 #6
Gretta proves her stupidity with that comment. Stupid is making comments about Stuart G Dec 2021 #7
+++ JohnSJ Dec 2021 #12
If Greta is stupid, that leaves the vast majority of our world severely wanting. Magoo48 Dec 2021 #75
The word yr looking for is 'intelligence', not 'intelligent'. Violet_Crumble Dec 2021 #28
She is saying Biden is part of the problem, and that is a problem that she believes that JohnSJ Dec 2021 #31
He didn't cancel the Line 3 permits. Cobalt Violet Dec 2021 #43
Because you can't just stop using fossil fuels without having a replacement. Anyone who JohnSJ Dec 2021 #48
Do You Mean The Young People.. OhioTim Dec 2021 #77
Her strategy is to tell the truth. Magoo48 Dec 2021 #74
Cindy Sheehan was the darling of progressives until she wasn't Kaleva Dec 2021 #9
We did pick the better of the two candidates. Turbineguy Dec 2021 #11
We needed an emergency brake on a runaway train. NullTuples Dec 2021 #21
Has she heard of the GOP and Manchin that refuses BBB? sheshe2 Dec 2021 #13
Hi sheshe. I'm pretty sure she would have heard of both... Violet_Crumble Dec 2021 #29
Obviously she's not keeping up with American politics as she's not aware... brush Dec 2021 #14
Until a bill is passed by both houses of Congress and signed, it's just fanfiction. RockRaven Dec 2021 #15
Oh, please. Biden has been pushing the climate initiatives for months... brush Dec 2021 #22
And the tangible evidence of leadership is movement. Talk before action is indistinguishable RockRaven Dec 2021 #25
Bs. Like I said, if he wasn't talking it up he'd be criticized for doing nothing. brush Dec 2021 #26
That's like saying Abe Lincoln was a failed leader because the southern states seceeded Redleg Dec 2021 #24
There hasn't been a POTUS in my lifetime who has been a leader on climate/environment issues RockRaven Dec 2021 #16
Gore would have been Polybius Dec 2021 #34
Most people in the U.S.A. don't believe global warming is an existential threat... hunter Dec 2021 #67
Why won't Biden just snap his fingers and magically make legislation happen??? Bleacher Creature Dec 2021 #18
She's thinking and using "Biden" as a metaphor for "the US" and she's right. PSPS Dec 2021 #19
and the primary reason for that is the Green Party in 2000, and 2016 JohnSJ Dec 2021 #33
I don't know anyone that considers the US a leader on climate change JI7 Dec 2021 #44
Greta's not stupid- just naive Redleg Dec 2021 #23
Probably accurate, and not recognizing that can be fatal to getting positive things done JohnSJ Dec 2021 #32
Excellent take on this! Eom Karma13612 Dec 2021 #65
Leadership involves spelling out what the problem is and how we should try to fix it. I agree that Doodley Dec 2021 #35
Ms Thunberg is great at identifying the problem. cab67 Dec 2021 #62
Biden got us back in the Paris Climate Agreement which idiot trump... brush Dec 2021 #78
I don't think it is strange. Gore1FL Dec 2021 #36
He could've stopped line 3 but didn't. Cobalt Violet Dec 2021 #41
Biden isn't a Dictator. In The US the best way to go about JI7 Dec 2021 #45
Oh, Greta. Welcome to the real world. NurseJackie Dec 2021 #49
Its all about getting publicity. oldsoftie Dec 2021 #54
I think she has an obligation to get it right and to not shit on Biden or... NurseJackie Dec 2021 #72
I think... Mike Nelson Dec 2021 #50
Progressive but middle of the road course bucolic_frolic Dec 2021 #51
Whats strange is that SHE is consodered a leader on climate change. oldsoftie Dec 2021 #53
Indeed. NurseJackie Dec 2021 #80
There aren't any major politicians who are "inspirational" on the climate, and that's what she said muriel_volestrangler Dec 2021 #55
+1 nt Javaman Dec 2021 #68
Greta is impatient. Aussie105 Dec 2021 #56
She's quickly going from inspiring... cab67 Dec 2021 #57
That's weird - you're attributing the childish "you're annoying me, so I'll ignore you" attitude muriel_volestrangler Dec 2021 #73
Most Republicans ARE in the wrong JI7 Dec 2021 #76
You're not alone in your feelings and observations. Thank you for saying it so concisely. NurseJackie Dec 2021 #81
Go Greta. twodogsbarking Dec 2021 #58
Who does she consider to be a leader on Climate Change ? JI7 Dec 2021 #59
Herself MichMan Dec 2021 #60
How ? JI7 Dec 2021 #66
Time MichMan Dec 2021 #69
... Crepuscular Dec 2021 #64
Points well taken. brush Dec 2021 #79
*LOCKING* Spazito Dec 2021 #82
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