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In reply to the discussion: Whoopi Goldberg Suspended From 'The View' for Holocaust Remarks [View all]ShazzieB
(22,624 posts)101. The Nazis even classified people according to how many Jewish grandparents they had!
The Nazis developed a very complex system for determining who was or was not legally classified as a Jew.
Mischling (German: [ˈmɪʃlɪŋ]; lit. "mix-ling"; plural: Mischlinge) was a pejorative legal term used in Nazi Germany to denote persons of both "Aryan" and non-Aryan, such as Jewish ancestry as codified in the Nuremberg racial laws of 1935. In German, the word has the general denotation of hybrid, mongrel, or half-breed.
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Nazi definitions of Mischling
As defined by the Nuremberg Laws in 1935, a "full Jew" (Istjude or Volljude in Nazi terminology) was a person regardless of religious affiliation or self-identification who had at least three grandparents who had been enrolled with a Jewish congregation or were married to a Jewish spouse. A person with two Jewish grandparents was also legally "Jewish" (so-called Geltungsjude, roughly speaking, in English: "Jew by legal validity" or "to be deemed/reckoned as a Jew" ) if that person met any of these racial conditions created by Nazis:
- Was enrolled as a member of a Jewish congregation when the Nuremberg Laws were issued or joined later
- Was married to a "full Jew".
- Was the offspring from a marriage with a Jew, which was concluded after the ban on mixed marriages.
- Was the offspring of an extramarital affair with a Jew, born out of wedlock after 31 July 1936.
A person who did not belong to any of these categorical conditions, but had two Jewish grandparents was classified as a Jewish Mischling of the first degree according to the racial constructs implemented by Nazis. A person with only one Jewish grandparent was classified as a Mischling of the second degree.
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Nazi definitions of Mischling
As defined by the Nuremberg Laws in 1935, a "full Jew" (Istjude or Volljude in Nazi terminology) was a person regardless of religious affiliation or self-identification who had at least three grandparents who had been enrolled with a Jewish congregation or were married to a Jewish spouse. A person with two Jewish grandparents was also legally "Jewish" (so-called Geltungsjude, roughly speaking, in English: "Jew by legal validity" or "to be deemed/reckoned as a Jew" ) if that person met any of these racial conditions created by Nazis:
- Was enrolled as a member of a Jewish congregation when the Nuremberg Laws were issued or joined later
- Was married to a "full Jew".
- Was the offspring from a marriage with a Jew, which was concluded after the ban on mixed marriages.
- Was the offspring of an extramarital affair with a Jew, born out of wedlock after 31 July 1936.
A person who did not belong to any of these categorical conditions, but had two Jewish grandparents was classified as a Jewish Mischling of the first degree according to the racial constructs implemented by Nazis. A person with only one Jewish grandparent was classified as a Mischling of the second degree.
Lots more, including footnotes, references, etc., at the source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mischling
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I agree, this is bullshit. It perverts what is commonly accepted meaning....
RussellCattle
Feb 2022
#1
Ummm, nazis killed people they identified as Jews even if they had converted to Christianity.
unblock
Feb 2022
#8
My husband converted to Judaism years ago after grad school. He subsequently married a
CTyankee
Feb 2022
#55
The Nazis even classified people according to how many Jewish grandparents they had!
ShazzieB
Feb 2022
#101
This whole discussion seems to ignore Hitler's push for eugenic purification...
AntiFascist
Feb 2022
#92
I respectfully disagree. Her comments were blown way out of proportion and Jonathan Greenblatt....
George II
Feb 2022
#4
That's not what she said. Not even close. Did you see the opening segment of The View today?
George II
Feb 2022
#10
As I already pointed out, even Jonathan Greenblatt acknowledged what she said and accepted....
George II
Feb 2022
#23
I just watched the segment with Jonathan Greenblatt, and I thought it was great.
ShazzieB
Feb 2022
#98
Here you go. The entire segment gives the full context of the discussion, but her comments....
George II
Feb 2022
#100
I went to school with a guy from a family that was far wealthier than they appeared.
BobTheSubgenius
Feb 2022
#80
It was one of the most sincere, heartfelt apologies I've ever seen. It wasn't laced with....
George II
Feb 2022
#71
Wait. You are blaming JEWS for her suspension?! For something SHE said?
Behind the Aegis
Feb 2022
#118
Probably not. Nor would a white woman. Anyone remember the years of Meghan McCain?
George II
Feb 2022
#11
Agree. Black woman judged differently...and here by old white men doing the judging.
Alexander Of Assyria
Feb 2022
#63
She was suspended by Kim Godwin, the president of ABC News, who is African American
MichMan
Feb 2022
#96
Her post-Colbert updated apology seemed a lot better. So it was a learning experience.
thesquanderer
Feb 2022
#7
I'm watching Don Lemon's show right now. Jonathan Greenblatt is on, and he seems to be....
George II
Feb 2022
#14
Exactly - an outspoken Black woman. They gave Meghan McCain free rein for several years.
George II
Feb 2022
#19
Yes. She's been in that position for less than a year. I think she's trying to impress those....
George II
Feb 2022
#62
Lol. Mrs. "Not a rape rape" stuck her foot in her mouth again and got suspended?
Hassin Bin Sober
Feb 2022
#31
The major networks may be headed by racists against blacks? Would not be a shocker.
Alexander Of Assyria
Feb 2022
#65
Not a surprise when you realize what race owns the majority of these media companies.
IHadToDoIt
Feb 2022
#40
She talked about her suspension when she appeared with Stephen Colbert last night:
Rhiannon12866
Feb 2022
#42
It amazes me that so many in this thread seem to ignore one of the basic premises of hitler's
JohnSJ
Feb 2022
#50
Of course it was about race. Ever hear the term "master race", herrenrasse? It was the concept
JohnSJ
Feb 2022
#49
And yet you've been using a graphic in your signature for years portraying a girl being tossed....
George II
Feb 2022
#95
Jonathan Greenblatt's response to Whoopi Goldberg's FIRST of three apologies. He also appeared....
George II
Feb 2022
#67
This presupposes that the Holocaust is and was defined as a campaign against Jews.
BobTheSubgenius
Feb 2022
#79
Somewhat ironic considering she chose Goldberg as a stage name, instead of using Johnson.
MichMan
Feb 2022
#84
It allows people who know jack shit about politics to pretend they're paying attention. n/m
BradAllison
Feb 2022
#108